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#691 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/swalwe … esponsible
What could go wrong comparing Trump to the guy behind 9/11. No, not Bush SLC. Nice try.
#692 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
I skimmed through the speech again and I totally forgot how he labeled the media "the enemy of the people". I get that people don't trust the media (actual reporters who fact check and have multiple sources) but they do provide a valuable function and service in a government and democracy. See Woodward and Bernstein on Watergate or just a bunch of other ones that have revealed corruption or wrongdoing by people in power.
Respectfully, that media doesn't exist anymore. Absolutely individual journalist still exist within every platform, but the false narratives and platforms to outright liars and frauds makes network news tainted. They allowed the violence to occur this summer and gave it a sympathetic ear and put on Democratic leaders who supported those behind the violence and paid lip service to radical ideas that comprised the radical groups. Case in point "Defund the Police." That term wasn't innocuous as was shown by the occupation of city blocks and arson attacks on police stations and federal court houses. When you support a slogan the rioters are chanting, you don't get to claim you're not inciting the violence. Every single leader in the Democratic party echoed those statements or the more academic "Reimagining of Policing" in direct response to the "Defund The Police" protests/riots save Biden, who to his credit called it all bullshit.
Monkey just gave a fucking outstanding synopsis of what really happened the past 4 years. People on this forum accused Trump of Treason and were convinced he conspired with Putin to win in 2016. Democratic leaders refused to attend his inauguration, and even Pelosi called him illegitimate and suggested Trump was beholden to Putin in a press conference. You don't get to ignore that history and all the violence that Antifa types enacted during the inauguration and for years after. Some nut shot up Congress because of this rhetoric, and none of them scaled it down. That's not an opinion, that's the absolute objective truth. The media played to that narrative, they played up the narrative that Trump was evil and immoral.
The man got 3 middle eastern nations to recognize Israel. ISIS isn't controlling any territory. North Korea isn't firing rockets over Japan every week. That matters, and none of his horseshit with contesting an election negates that those would have been Nobel achievements for any other man, especially after Obama got it in 2009. The US is in less conflicts and has less foreign troop presence than in 2 generations. He's not Hitler and he's not a dictator. That's how the media portrayed him, and they don't get to claim nobility because of a romanticized portrayal as an institution.
#693 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
What you’re speculating about isn’t known. It’s speculation. You nor the narrative you’re following have provided any evidence of a “plan”. When a law enforcement agency and not a progressive politician looking for attention make that claim and provide evidence, I’ll give it its due consideration. You’re embracing the latest conspiracy from the same outlets and actors that have deceived you repeatedly.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
How about you demand the same evidence you required of Trump sycophants calling conspiracy.
#694 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
James wrote:The Joint Chiefs issued a statement yesterday.
The American people have trusted the Armed Forces of the United States to protect them and our Constitution for almost 250 years. As we have done throughout our history, the U.S. military will obey lawful orders from civilian leadership, support civil authorities to protect lives and property, ensure public safety in accordance with the law, and remain fully committed to protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The violent riot in Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021 was a direct assault on the U.S. Congress, the Capitol building, and our Constitutional process. We mourn the deaths of the two Capitol policemen and others connected to these unprecedented events.
We witnessed actions inside the Capitol building that were inconsistent with the rule of law. The rights of freedom of speech and assembly do not give anyone the right to resort to violence, sedition and insurrection.
As Service Members, we must embody the values and ideals of the Nation. We support and defend the Constitution. Any act to disrupt the Constitutional process is not only against our traditions, values, and oath; it is against the law.
On January 20, 2021, in accordance with the Constitution, confirmed by the states and the courts, and certified by Congress, President-elect Biden will be inaugurated and will become our 46th Commander in Chief.
To our men and women deployed and at home, safeguarding our country-stay ready, keep your eyes on the horizon, and remain focused on the mission. We honor your continued service in defense of every American.
[signed]
Mark A. Milley
General, U.S. Army
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of StaffJohn E. Hyten
General, U.S. Air Force
Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of StaffJames C. McConville
General, U.S. Army
Chief of Staff of the ArmyDavid H. Berger
General, U.S. Marine Corps
Commandant of the Marine CorpsMichael M. Gilday
Admiral, U.S. Navy
Chief of Naval OperationsCharles Q. Brown, Jr.
General, U.S. Air Force
Chief of Staff of the Air ForceJohn W. Raymond
General, U.S. Space Force
Chief of Space OperationsDaniel R. Hokanson
General, U.S. Army
Chief of the National Guard BureauHow do we interpret this? The joint chiefs are acknowledging Biden's victory publically?
That they're doing their jobs and the hysteria about a coup is just that. Unarmed dipshits wearing a Q t-shirt aren't going to be taking control.
#695 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
I saw that. But from my pov, that just solidifies what I've been saying for a year that all the rhetoric about Trump staying in office after his term was bonkers. Every American Military Officer swears an oath to the constitution, not the President. Only enlisted folks swear loyalty to the commander in chief. We haven't had a bonafide military leader since Bush I, so I don't think the military will be defecting to whatever ever civilian playing Soldier sits in the oval office in violation of their oaths.
#696 Re: The Garden » BF Skinner » 278 weeks ago
More so than Freud or Jung? I haven't read Skinner but thoroughly enjoyed Jung.
#697 Re: The Garden » who all here owns a gun? » 278 weeks ago
And I swear it
I don’t have a gun
I don’t have a gun
No I don’t have a gun
this is a GN'R forum, Nirvana is banned. 
#698 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
They can set the rules however they want, they have the votes. I expect them to have a formal vote by Friday as they'll want the media putting cameras on their speeches, and then it'll go to the Senate who will have 3 days to schedule a trial and vote.
#699 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
They need a couple days to make their argument before holding a formal vote, so today should be about setting up the impeachment proceedings. Though nothing is stopping Pelosi from holding an impeachment vote without a "trial".
You'll need 17 Republicans to join in the Senate to make it official. I guess we'll see if that happens in the next 7 days.
#700 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 278 weeks ago
You're aware that anyone in DC can tour the capitol for $20 pre-COVID? That thousands of people walk past the speakers office on their way to the old supreme court room daily? There's literally a velvet rope between the tour and the Speaker's door. I last did it in 2018. This isn't the west wing or Supreme Court that are off limits to the public. This isn't some secret shit, any tourist in DC can do this.
