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#721 Re: The Garden » Kindergartener Handcuffed At School For Acting Up » 980 weeks ago

When you have a kid it's a different story.   Kids that young get nightmares from traumatic experiences.
I agree that, that child needs alot of dicipline but also, there could be something seriously wrong with the child and the mother and the school should have evaluated this kid again with the other tantrums that happened before this one because a kid has to be evaluated now to get into a regular kindergarten.   He could have autism, adhd or sensory intergration dysfunction, all disorders that can cause a child to have tremendous trantrums, now usually this stuff is caught before 5 years old.  Who knows if this mother decided to miss the signs and never put him in preschool or he is just THAT kind of kid that is very difficult to handle and needs a stricter environment at home so that it carries over in school.    The school will most likely pull him out of mainstream kindergarten and put him in a type of special ed class solely on his behavior because from what I know, at least out here in Long Island, behavior is not tolerated and will get your child pulled from the class.   Even if he attends another school, he will surely be evaluated again and probably going to have progress reports and most likely will be in a special ed class for now where teachers are trained to deal with kids like this.


Handcuffs are going over the line, if your kid was handcuffed I'd bet dollars to donuts you'd be pissed off no matter how your kid was acting at 5 years old in Kindergarten.

#722 The Garden » 'FREDDY' AND THE SCREAMER » 980 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive
Replies: 3

January 25, 2008 -- A Brooklyn man, apparently acting out his violent movie fantasies, attacked a man named Jason with a razor-fingered gloved hand à la Freddy Kruger, authorities said yesterday.
The nightmare on Pacific Street, in Crown Heights, unfolded at 2:45 p.m. Nov. 10, when Joseph Swaby, 22, allegedly accused his roommate, Jason Dixon - whom he met in jail - of stealing from him.
Suddenly, Swaby whipped out a replica of the bladed glove famously worn by the Kruger character in the "Nightmare on Elm Street" flicks.
He ordered Dixon to strip, kicked him out, and began slashing him, police said.
Swaby remained at large until Wednesday, when he was arrested following an attack reminiscent of the classic Quentin Tarantino shoot-'em-up "Reservoir Dogs," authorities said.
This time, he allegedly fired pistols in both fists at Shawn Johnson, 40, on Pacific Street at 5:20 p.m. on Jan. 18. A bystander was grazed.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01252008/ne … 700600.htm


Damn, talk about a movie coming to life 18

#723 The Garden » Kindergartener Handcuffed At School For Acting Up » 980 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive
Replies: 12

NYCLU Calls Incident Example Of 'Criminalization Of Classroom'

Reporting
John Slattery
NEW YORK (CBS) ? A Queens mother is demanding answers after her 5-year-old son was handcuffed at his public school for allegedly misbehaving.

The child, Dennis Rivera, a kindergartener at a Public School 81 in Ridgewood, was put on a chair after apparently acting up and handcuffed behind his back by a school safety agent, said Jasmina Vazquez, the boy's mother.

"I think it was excessive force. It was unnecessary what they did to my son," she told CBS 2.

Vasquez said her son, who suffers from asthma, has speech problems, and may have attention deficit disorder, was handled brutally.

The incident happened on Jan. 17 around 11 a.m., when the boy allegedly threw a tantrum and was taken to the principal's office where he apparently knocked items off of a desk.

"They were holding me again and didn't let me go," the child said.

Vasquez, who works in Manhattan, called her babysitter in Queens, who went to the school.

"He was sitting on a chair with handcuffs behind himself like a common criminal," Vasquez said.

According to the mother, school officials would not release the child to the babysitter. Rivera, who had two other tantrums in the previous week, was transported by EMS to Elmhurst Hospital, for psychiatric evaluation.

"I think that handcuffing a child to a chair is over the boundaries and it should never have gone that far," said Vasquez.

The Department of Education is investigating, as are the police who are responsible for school safety agents.

Rivera has now been enrolled in a private school in Manhattan. His mother says he's been suffering from nightmares since the incident. Their attorney is planning legal action.

Parents were stunned when they learned what happened to Rivera.

"How are you going to put handcuffs on? You know the impact that's going to have on his mind?" said Zenaida Medina, one concerned parent.

The police report says the child was "punching his teacher and swinging wildly at school aides, that he smacked the assistant principal in the face, ran into a corner, and began to throw things on the floor."

"The reality is something had to be done," said Gregory Floyd of the City Employees Union, which represents the school safety officer. Floyd said cuffing the child was the last resort.

CBS 2's Sean Hennessey asked Floyd how there was no other option, no other teachers or adults who could control the boy.

"I'm saying this 5-year-old, not every 5-year-old, this 5-year-old could not be controlled," Floyd said.

But critics laugh at that suggestion and say system wide, school officers have a history of going too far.

"The situation with school discipline is out of control," said Donna Lieberman, Executive Director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.

Lieberman said the incident is another example of what the union calls the "criminalization of the classroom."

"There's something fundamentally wrong when school safety agents are handcuffing a kid who is 5-years-old for having a tantrum," she said.

New York City schools chancellor Joel Klein said cases like Rivera's involve judgment calls.

"I find it troubling when you see a young kid in handcuffs, it's got to bother you," he said.

Meanwhile, the female safety agent, who was substituting that day, is back on the job and her union said it doesn't expect any disciplinary action to be taken after the NYPD finishes its investigation


http://wcbstv.com/local/queens.child.ha … 38112.html

This is an outrage!    If the child had the tantrum that the police report says, then keep the child confined in a room and call the mother and have the mother remove the child from the school.

Unbelievable 4

#724 Re: The Sunset Strip » Slash: Weiland Playing With STP This Summer » 980 weeks ago

But any silence between the camps is bound to end come 2012, when the influential hard rock act becomes eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.


I sure hope that Axl will set everything aside and join them in this 5

#725 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNRSucks.com (Closed due to bike update etc) » 980 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:
DoubleTalkingJive wrote:
Maverick wrote:

Yeah but does GN'R CARE about that exposure?  All I get from the camp is that they want us to leave them the hell alone.

I do know the sites are read by certain people in the GNR camp.

...And posted on by more than one.

Anytime this topic does come up, people seem to forget that they get flayed anytime they say something, do you guys really want an update such as... "Soon Is The Word" every few weeks.

No one says they have to say soon, just say something.

#726 Re: The Garden » Food that you crave and must have at times » 980 weeks ago

Ass is good big_smile


Lately I have been craving Chicken Salad.   Ohh yesterday I had a Chicken Salad BLT, it was sooooo damn good.

#727 Re: Guns N' Roses » Out of Patience, Give Us Chinese Democracy! » 980 weeks ago

Jameslofton wrote:

That 'pie in the sky' shit is way too ambitious. A PPV of an interview and performance of CD? An old concert included in a box set as incentive to buy it? Waiting a while longer so Del James can write a book? Downloads and a box set  giving Uni a profit?

Gimme a break.

Grow balls and release a regular album and hope for the best. You know, like other artists/bands do.

This whole CD saga just got out of control. IF it has been turned in and no one knows what to do with it, its just par for the course in this bizarre journey that seems to have no end.

I have to agree.   An old concert with all the concerts that you can get online is not appealing at all.  Only thing that could be interesting is alot of backstage footage and interviews about CD, now you're talking 22

A book, that would definitely take even more time.   That would something of interest on it's own.

I'd say having a page or two written by Axl would be an incentive in the CD booklet and call it a day.

#728 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNRSucks.com (Closed due to bike update etc) » 980 weeks ago

bucketfoot wrote:
DoubleTalkingJive wrote:

It is mind boggling how the fanbase is treated.

I don't know why we don't get more updates, etc.

It seems a little odd to me. I mean Bumblefoot especially has the utmost respect for the fans and I get the same vibe from all the other members in the band. I know they all have great respect for Axl and want him to be happy and all that, but it seems strange still. Axl is sometimes turned off by all the negative people on the boards, which I understand.

People expect more and sometimes that's definitely not right. It just seems like everyone (including Axl) is tightlipped, so I don't know if he can't talk about things for some odd reason or he's just choosing to keep everything underwraps.

Part of the reason Axl and GNR have always been cool is because they have this mystique and ambiguity around them, so in some ways its good. You don't want to oversaturate the world with GNR. You want to keep barriers up no matter what.

So in some ways it's beneficial and good, but when it's bad it's BAD. I'm sure people get me on that one.

I'd say BBF is the greatest when it comes to fans, with the tour blog he gave us, it gave us a little insight to the behind the scenes antics of the band and for that I am grateful.

I also know that Axl frowns upon the negativity of some of the fanbase but on the flip side it's hard not to get frustrated.   He could turn the negativity around with most if he did decide to update us, sure you'd still have the eternal negative members no matter what but MOST people would turn right around and get completely positive.

#729 Re: The Sunset Strip » HEATH LEDGER DEAD » 980 weeks ago

Thursday January 24 12:57 PM ET

Funeral arrangements for Heath Ledger have been completed and his relatives were expected to arrive in New York on Friday, a funeral home spokesman said.

George Amado, the general manager of the Frank E. Campbell funeral home, refused to disclose any more details, saying that any additional information would have to come from Ledger's manager.

"The family doesn't want us to give out any information," he said Thursday.

The 28-year-old actor's body was taken to the funeral home on Manhattan's Upper East Side on Wednesday, a day after he was found dead in his SoHo loft with bottles of prescription drugs nearby.

An autopsy Wednesday was inconclusive and further test results weren't expected to be known for several days, the medical examiner's office said. Police have said the Australian-born actor's death may have been caused by a drug overdose and appeared to be accidental.

On Thursday, the makeshift memorial outside Ledger's apartment building had grown to more than 100 bouquets of tulips, daisies, carnations and tropical flowers, along with candles, signs, notes and other memorials.

A computer printout of an Australian flag bore the message: "We will always be proud of you, Heath. Rest in peace, mate. You will be missed."

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This is so sad, it really, really is.

#730 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNRSucks.com (Closed due to bike update etc) » 980 weeks ago

Maverick wrote:

Yeah but does GN'R CARE about that exposure?  All I get from the camp is that they want us to leave them the hell alone.

I do know the sites are read by certain people in the GNR camp.   I do think that they would be a bit affected, their only lifeline is the forums because that is the main fanbase they have.   They themselves may not agree but I really think that if all the forums shut down, I think they would lose a ton of fans because then no one would really give a crap.   It'd be out of sight out of mind, because they aren't in the news at all to be in mind.

It is mind boggling how the fanbase is treated.

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