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#761 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 285 weeks ago
Do you have any proof Kushner said that? You need to start distinguishing between actual news and credible sources, and twitter and left wing hysteria. Here's a tip, Trump didn't call WW1 and WW2 dead suckers and losers either. No person can put their name to that claim. If your best source is anonymous, you probably shouldn't accept it as truth.
I'll help you:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kushn … ask-force/
Also, please let me know how the US counts a COVID death versus say Germany or the UK? Then compare our known infected to our known dead against any other nation that we can believe is credibly reporting their figures. Another protip: Russia and China aren't credible. Germany and France by contrast are!
#762 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 285 weeks ago
I see informed posting is still not in style. Carry on.
Remember, it was COVID that ordered the entertainment industry closed, not Governors. It was COVID that decided not to infect righteous BLM protesters, not Governors. It was COVID that forced blue states to allocate millions in funds for the defense of illegal immigrants and many other pet projects ballooning their budgets, not Governors.
America has the lowest mortality rate out of any Western nation, but that's just because COVID loves freedom and the American way, and not because our medical systems are vastly superior to our European counterparts. COVID ordered infected patients into nursing homes in NY and PA accounting for 80%+ of their COVID fatalities, not Wolf of Cuomo.
#763 Re: The Garden » Holiday Movies/Music » 286 weeks ago
Scrooged. I'm the same age as Culkin, so I loved that movie when it came out.
#764 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 286 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex … 8-n1038221
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics … /e-verify/
"Haley was the first female governor of South Carolina, the youngest governor in the country and the second governor of Indian descent (after [Republican] Bobby Jindal of Louisiana)"
"Haley was born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa[6] to an Indian Punjabi American Sikh family at Bamberg County Hospital in Bamberg, South Carolina.[7][8] Her father, Ajit Singh Randhawa, and her mother, Raj Kaur Randhawa, immigrated to the United States from Amritsar District, Punjab, India."
Businesses are still riddled with illegals. Go to any Midwest farm or landscaping company.
There is no room in a trump Republican Party for a Nikki Hayley. Bobby Jindal is exactly the good old southern boy type i was thinking of...none of that addresses the fact that she’s a woman...and the blue collar men won’t vote for that.
I notice too that she’s so proud of her heritage she buried it and then Americanized it
This is like a parody of a progressive bigot. Nikki isn't Americanized, it's an Indian nickname her mother gave her.
It’s not a parody. Apparently converting religions is now a punishable offense. Who else believes apostasy is a punishable crime?
#765 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 286 weeks ago
It'll sure be entertaining to watch all those who found a conscience on EOs suddenly lose it again once Biden is in office.
You mean like all the people that complained about Obama's EOs and now love Trump's EOs?
Trumplicans have no interest in negotiation...it's their way or the highway on immigration. Meanwhile, businesses (including Trump himself) hire these people hand over first and there are never any consequences to the businesses who hire them.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex … 8-n1038221
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics … /e-verify/
I don't think so...I think Nikki Haley's appeal is with the Southern Republican...another white person with a southern drawl telling us how it ought to be...
Either way...I feel confident that too many men in this country won't vote for a woman for president. Period. Especially blue collar workers.
"Haley was the first female governor of South Carolina, the youngest governor in the country and the second governor of Indian descent (after [Republican] Bobby Jindal of Louisiana)"
"Haley was born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa[6] to an Indian Punjabi American Sikh family at Bamberg County Hospital in Bamberg, South Carolina.[7][8] Her father, Ajit Singh Randhawa, and her mother, Raj Kaur Randhawa, immigrated to the United States from Amritsar District, Punjab, India."
#766 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 286 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:misterID wrote:Trump is destroying any chance for he or a family member to successfully run in 2024. The good news? Trump is destroying any chance for he or a family member to successfully run in 2024.
Regardless of his current tantrum, I don't see anyway Trump gets the nomination in 24. The GOP will most likely flip the house in 22 and keep the Senate. If they run Niki Haley or some other bonafide conservative, there is a good chance they win the white house in 24. With Trump, they can lose it all.
I don't think he runs, but can the GOP stop him or exclude him if they did? Wouldn't he just trounce on Nikki Haley & all others like he did in the 2016 primary?
Again, I can agree the GOP would want to and likely be better off moving on from him, but do they have anything to control him not running?
They can't stop him, but you have to ask can his ego handle another defeat? I don't think he'll risk it. I hope to god the rumors of him starting his own network or buying newsweek are false. We already have CNN and MSNBC, we don't need more American being fed outrage porn on the right - Hannity covers that.
I'm horrible at predicting how the GOP primaries will go, but any of the GOP candidates can pick up on Trump's populism (and honestly his immigration rhetoric is the GOP platform) while also appearing sane. Immigration is a loser for democrats and they don't appear to have learned yet that they lost in every race but the Presidency. Courts will stop Biden from launching DACA again, but I don't see how Pelosi gets the 70 fanatics in her party to coalesce around an immigration plan that has any chance of passing the GOP Senate (or even a 50/50 Senate with Manchin).
It'll sure be entertaining to watch all those who found a conscience on EOs suddenly lose it again once Biden is in office.
#767 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 286 weeks ago
Trump is destroying any chance for he or a family member to successfully run in 2024. The good news? Trump is destroying any chance for he or a family member to successfully run in 2024.
Regardless of his current tantrum, I don't see anyway Trump gets the nomination in 24. The GOP will most likely flip the house in 22 and keep the Senate. If they run Niki Haley or some other bonafide conservative, there is a good chance they win the white house in 24. With Trump, they can lose it all.
#768 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 287 weeks ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-manchin- … 28386.html
Doesn't bode well for Biden's agenda. No medicare for all.
#769 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 287 weeks ago
So now that every network is saying the ACA will stand (SHOCKER!), do we get to denounce those who said ACB was an assault on the ACA? At what point are people held accountable for their constant fear mongering and lies? Or do we just ignore that behavior because it was all justified in the crusade against the bad orange man (like every other boogeyman the left has created)?
#770 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 287 weeks ago
misterID wrote:It doesn't matter, doesn't change anything. Hillary advised Biden not concede no matter what, also.
The lengths you guys go to poo-poo this authoritarian and anti democratic behavior is difficult to fathom. It's one thing to be a weak man and say nothing while this shit unfolds, it's another entirely to make excuses for it via false equivalency and whataboutism.
I've gotta say, this post like many others you've made over the last few days, are truly pathetic.
How can you say this? I'm genuine in my question and want your honest perspective. No one here save SG has ever spoken positively about Trump as a man. Nearly every single one of us have condemned his conduct and personal behavior. But Authoritarian?!? C'mon man. He's a lot of things, but calling this anti-democratic and authoritarian is hyperbole. Election laws weren't followed to the letter of the law. You're free to believe leniency was warranted and appropriate where it occurred, but no one can objectively deny that many of the battleground states took actions to count ballots that traditionally weren't counted. Again, you're free to support those measures or dislike them based on your personal opinion. But there's no denying they happened, and in states like PA, absolutely have an impact on the final count.
I think I was the first one here to call on him to concede. But he has every right to contest the decisions of elected partisans in the courts. I don't think he'll win. I think it looks poorly for as much as Trump can look poorly. But it's not anti-democratic behavior. It was done by Gore and countless Democrats since. It was done and is still ongoing by Stacy Abrams who the networks have decided has a newsworthy opinion on any of this.
After the actions taken by the Democratic party to call him illegitimate from day one of 2017? For people including yourself to repeatedly accuse him of treason based of a now debunked and discredited Steele dossier purchased and pushed by the Clinton campaign? This isn't whataboutism. This is about your expressed opinion completely ignoring modern events and ignoring the very real possibility illegal activity occurred that influenced the final count to an unknown (though probably insignificant) degree.
Anti-democratic is accepting the media's conclusion without letting the defined system run its course.
