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#781 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 222 weeks ago

I just don’t see China going that far. Russia could survive the sanctions because they live under sanctions. China could not.

#782 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 222 weeks ago

Funny enough, I heard Hardskool in my car for the first time today and thought it sounded great 16

Bluefish18 wrote:
misterID wrote:

Btw, if there is some argument about his involvement in recording from those periods, he’s been a producer on CD from at least 2003.

http://www.suicideshift.info/discograph … gineer.jpg

This is them outside the studio 2003/4

That's ALOT of dad jeans 14  Who are the other two?

Engineers Eric Caudieux and Dan Monti

#783 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 222 weeks ago

Btw, if there is some argument about his involvement in recording from those periods, he’s been a producer on CD from at least 2003.

cd-engineer.jpg

This is them outside the studio 2003/4

#784 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 222 weeks ago

I know I said wasn’t going to say anymore, but HOLY SHIT.

No, Caram didn’t mix those earlier tracks, that is NOT in dispute. No shit Axl kept changing things, THAT’S THE POINT.  How am I rewriting history? I am literally stating the events that took place. Axl had several mixes and not only CHOSE Caram’s, he dictated them. He had those mixes and said, “nope, not what I want. I know I have these mixes by Beavan and Andy Wallace, but I’m not satisfied, I don’t care what Dave thinks. Caram, this is how I want them to sound. I want them to totally melt Dave’s brain, so that one day he will get into an argument on a forum and claim that these mixes were not dictated by me, only you. Yeah, I know, I have the opportunity to mix these with anyone else, including those other guys, I’m choosing YOU. Now let’s totally fuck with Dave’s mind.”

#786 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 222 weeks ago

davegnfnr2k wrote:
misterID wrote:

Dude, Axl controls everything. It was released exactly how he wanted it to sound. He had the Andy Wallace mixes AND CHANGED THEM. We got what Axl wanted. Caram is Axl’s guy, not the label.

Its funny how the old mixes that we have from the lockerroom are also just what Axl wanted, and they sound great.  Even the early leaks also sounded great.  But once we started to get to the Caram mixes its when they went to shit. Funny how that works.  but sure its not Caram that is the problem LMAO

Listen to what you’re saying. The earlier mixes were better (which Caram was involved with the production, at least those from 02-04, like Better). Axl had the Wallace mixes. Axl was not satisfied with them. He continued to add and cut & paste. I’m not even sure Hardskool was done in a proper studio, but over files and not tape. You’re actually saying exactly what I am. Axl had them changed. They were mixed the way Axl wanted them. He had the opportunity to release it a different way and with someone else. He didn’t. He sat in the mixing room, gave orders, listened to exactly what we listened to on CD and said “that’s exactly what I want.” And then it was turned in and released. That’s the last I’ll say about it.

#787 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 222 weeks ago

Dude, Axl controls everything. It was released exactly how he wanted it to sound. He had the Andy Wallace mixes AND CHANGED THEM. We got what Axl wanted. Caram is Axl’s guy, not the label.

#788 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 223 weeks ago

davegnfnr2k wrote:
misterID wrote:

Whatever’s released will be a cut & paste job. I don’t see why Caram gets blamed for this, btw. Under the circumstances, he did a good job recording CD. He wasn’t the one adding guitar after guitar. I’m not sure they’re even recording in a studio for the new stuff.

CD was terribly mixed. Caram is a hack. He is terrible at his job. Out of all the versions of these songs we have, his versions are by far the worst.

Bullshit, everything was approved by Axl. Axl was a part of everything on CD production wise. That’s how he wanted it to sound.

#789 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 223 weeks ago

Whatever’s released will be a cut & paste job. I don’t see why Caram gets blamed for this, btw. Under the circumstances, he did a good job recording CD. He wasn’t the one adding guitar after guitar. I’m not sure they’re even recording in a studio for the new stuff.

#790 Re: Guns N' Roses » Will the next single be something we've heard already? » 223 weeks ago

It’s the Absurd logic of releasing singles.

My money is in Atlas.

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