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#791 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
If Slash and Duff would be AWOL for whatever hack reasons, I'd FULLY SUPPORT the idea of Axl's new band playing.
I get the odd feeling that you say that just because the ball (to use an Axl expression) is on your court now so to speak.
Not at all. I really hate hysterical men, and when it comes to art, I support action over no-action. That's it. Although I don't debate that there was a little to no chance for Slash not showing up from the beginning. If Axl was there and he wouldn't wanna perform, I'm sure that Slash N' Duff wouldn't get Myles to sing. If they did at all, anyway.
And for the record I wouldn't support Axl's band to play anything at the Hall of Fame, as the award is meant for the AFD/Illusion band, and no one else.
Like Buzz has pointed out, some get the award and some play. Best scenario is if they are the same people. Axl and Izzy nixed the best scenario this time. You wanted the best, but they didn't fuckin' make it. So here is what you get... Slash, Duff, Steven, Matt, Gilby and Myles Kennedy!

#792 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
Mikkamakka wrote:Axl had a chance to be there. He had a chance to perform. He refused both, and even the award. Now some other people who created AFD and the UYIs will likely play with some fill-ins. Booohoooooo. I totally support that those who have the balls and the respect for the fans and for their _own_ past to be there, play some songs. If Slash and Duff would be AWOL for whatever hack reasons, I'd FULLY SUPPORT the idea of Axl's new band playing. Now Slash N' Co will play, possibly. I hope they will. That'd be more rock and roll then not playing or sitting in a truck in Indiana, or watching baseball in Malibu.
I don't really blame Axl for not playing either. It is what it is. He could have/should have handled it better. I don't blame Slash and Duff if this how they decide to handle it. They all get to do as close to what they want to do as possible.
I don't get the Izzy thing though, and now highly doubt there could ever be a true reunion tour even if Axl and Slash somehow patch everything up.
Agree. I don't blame Axl. He is what he is, whatever sad is that. I think Izzy could have gone (could go?), but for whatever reason he's likely to stay home. Maybe he is what he is, too, and too old to be different, even for this night.
I also agree on the reunion chances - I wrote it off years ago because of Axl, but as it seems, Izzy would be another roadblock of a true reunion. I had that dream (well, smaller than JFK...) of them standing next to each other, accepting the award, acting civic for 5 minutes, then that's it, the final chapter is over, they go serarate ways. Forever. Well, the latter will happen 
But I find it ridiculous that some people now finally found a ground to side with Axl after the amount of bullshit was unbearable even for a lot of his hc fans in the past few days. This ground is that the others may DARE to perform without King Hysteria. What's the big deal? They won't call themselves Guns N' Roses. In fact, with a performance, they risk a lot, cause Myles is not Axl, for sure. Nobody is, except himself. So they can lose as much as they can win. So it's a ballsy move.
I don't know when they gotta know that Axl won't go. My guess is that after his letter. So in this case they had 3 days to find a singer, cause Izzy won't go either. For political reasons I would have chosen somebody else than Myles. But for artistic reasons he was the best choice. He knows the songs, he's been performing them for almost 2 years and he can sing very well. He's a trained professional and hits all the notes. Maybe doesn't have a rasp, doesn't have a strong stage persona, doesn't have the anger, maybe his voice is getting thinner in the higher register, but sings those songs properly. Prolific. Better than asking Kid Rock to sing PC, atlhough that wouldn't be a shock either.
I still hope though that there will be a song, maybe It's So Easy with only Duff, Slash and Steven (and possibly Gilby). That'd show the others that performing at an award show for 15 minutes isn't 'rocket surgery'. It's really so easy. If you have balls.
#793 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
Yup. And my thought is, even if that's not the case, that's how Axl will see it. "Slash fucked me again."
Slash can do anything, Axl will feel that way. Often happens with maniac, paranoid people.
#794 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Myles is good on PC, SCOM, outro to rocket queen and parts of nightrain. I am with D, I would take him over nothing.
But yet again people put out how *wrong* it is for Axl to continue with GNR and release Chinese Democracy with a bunch of hicks but yet Myles and Slash playing at the Hall of Fame is alright because "it's better than nothing".
Does no one but me see the double standards in that???
Maybe those have a problem with Myles singin', who support the idea of Axl continuing as Guns N' Roses with replacements of replacements playing the old songs night by night? That's the real double standard.
It's only one occasion. If Slash-Duff-Gilby-Steven-Matt-Myles tours over the world as Guns N' Roses, that'll be the same fraud, as accepting Axl N' Whoever Else as Guns N' Roses. (Not as bad though, as there would be more AFD and UYI guys.)
Anyway, it's only one show. They don't pretend to be Guns N' Roses, but they MAYBE play some Guns N' Roses songs. That's why you are using double standards and trying to act like the two situations would be the same. They are as far as they can be.
Axl had a chance to be there. He had a chance to perform. He refused both, and even the award. Now some other people who created AFD and the UYIs will likely play with some fill-ins. Booohoooooo. I totally support that those who have the balls and the respect for the fans and for their _own_ past to be there, play some songs. If Slash and Duff would be AWOL for whatever hack reasons, I'd FULLY SUPPORT the idea of Axl's new band playing. Now Slash N' Co will play, possibly. I hope they will. That'd be more rock and roll then not playing or sitting in a truck in Indiana, or watching baseball in Malibu.
#795 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
Gibbo posted it in the TWAT section, but some people don't check that, so...Gilby's in Cleveland, too
http://www.cleveland.com/rockhall/index … h_for.html
I think they really wanna play 
#796 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Duff McKagan reunites with former Guns N' Roses bandmates Matt Sorum a » 760 weeks ago
So Gilby's in Cleveland, too... I think they wanna play. Gilby could take axl's award and all would by fine.
#797 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:We should have our own online celebration of the event.
I'd be all for that. Also, I'd like to add "What BLS said" to the discussion.
Lastly.... Eddie Trunk just tweeted this:
"Just found out that @MylesKennedy has to postpone our interview for tonight as he is headed to Cleveland."
So my worst fears have in fact been realized.
At least not Robin Finck's playing Slash's parts. 
I think that ANY performance by them there is better than a no performance.
Any, except Jay-Z, Rhianna, Fergie or whoever. Slash with Myles Kennedy is a much better fit than VR playing instead of Van Halen - at least one/some of the guys would be there who wrote those songs and Myles is one of the finest singers of the world to sing GN'R songs. It's a tough job, since Axl has a very unique voice and style, so nobody can come close to his heydays performing these live, but I stand for Myles being a better live singer today than Axl.
Of course, it wouldn't be the real deal, and I'd prefer Axl or Izzy singin' GN'R tunes. But it's far better than Green Day playing GN'R
We don't know if Myles is there to perform, or Slash takes his buddy with him - if Dizzy planned to take a gypsy caravan with him, then Slash couldn't? There is a chance that Slash will use this gig to promote his new album with Myles. I'm not happy if that's the case, cause it's about a tribute to GN'R and not a direct marketing occasion for their present and future solo stuff, but hey, I'd rather hear You're A Lie or SCOM by Myles Kennedy, then no music at all.
#798 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
^ I agree. If Izzy doesn't go it's a major snub to fans in my opinion.
In one way it's slightly more tolerable, as in a way as I said at the start - as rhythm guitarist - he's not as fundamental to a good show as the lead guitarist or singer is.
However, on an ethical basis it's actually far worse. I mean at least Axl has some reason to no show it. If he goes he'd have to:
1. Deal with his enemy slash
2. Face up to public condemnation of his new band or at minimum public preference for the old band and the inate harm that does to his current endeavours.
3. He's had a disagreement with the Hall.but WTF is izzy's reason for not going? He's just too cool? He can't stand that Axl and Slash don't get on? He's got somewhere better to be than being acknowledged as one of the greatest musicians of all time?
Suck it up Izzy and go to the show.
Agree. I respect his 'stay away from the bullshit' attitude, but in this case he generates more bullshit and drama. People talking about Axl cannot change - well, it seems that Izzy's stuck in his past, too. Wouldn't it be cool to meet your buddies, Slash, Duff, Steven (and Matt), talk some, and play 2 or 3 tracks? Then it would be about the music and not the drama.
#799 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
How a GN'R fab 5 reunion/farewell show should go down: Live at "The Ritz."
Have a club show like they just did. Don't blow your load on the HOF bullshit.
Agree. Had Axl's decision been against the HoF, which clearly wasn't, it would have been super cool to get the five of them together and play a small gig the next day as The Drunken Fuxx. That would have been a very rock and roll fuck you to the Hall and a very rock and roll gift to the fans, and a very rock and roll tribute to the past.
BTW I find it ridiculous to read people praising Axl like he'd have been an underground hero for not going. Bullshit. He's playing the same 20-year old material under the Guns N' Roses name with less than 25% addition from the past 20 years; he spent more than 14 million dollars from the label on his 'vision' then complained about the lack of marketing strategy; he's playing private shows and fashion shows all over the world for money; he has more antics than a hysterical, menstruating primadonna. Not the description of an underground artist.
#800 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 760 weeks ago
'not planning' to go can mean a lot of things... for example expecting an Axl hissy fit and a no-show.

