And as someone who was there, it was the exact same stuff people were talking about in 2005 too. NOTHING has changed.

Keep something in mind. We're talking about a potential new Guns album in 2015, that was probably recorded in 2008, at the LATEST, and was probably originally recorded in the early 2000's.

I think Axl's held on to this for so long, because this is it. Barring any unforseen reunion, I think he's got one more release in him from the leftovers and that's that. What the fuck is the guy gonna do? Stage a comeback in his 60's? Really?

I think the new album will be out before the end of the world, but then again... maybe not. That's Axl.

Yeah but Intercourse, what you're saying pretty much is every rock star isn't it? You're basically saying that because Axl's audience is getting older, and thus GNR's, that somehow he's just another washed up hack playing Vegas. Aren't they all? The business has entirely changed, you go where the money is, such as international touring with Guns, and considering that the Vegas Hard Rock is literally a pickup truck drive in your pajamas away from Axl's house.... I think we can all give him a pass on this.

Springsteen is a complete anomaly. Nobody does that in reality. In fairness Axl at least tries to give the audience a near 3-hour show, and doesn't lip-sync to pre-recorded auto-tune, unless alot.

I do with Axl had been more like Springsteen, but he's just not. That doesn't completely discredit him.

What if Axl said, i'm not gonna fucking record to make some suit money? Possibly, but he can't devalue himself by recording every single album for free, or no one would fund him to record.

If Axl doesn't feel the music is ready, done, or he isn't ready... he isn't fuckin' ready. The nature of the beast. Doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bath water in frustration and misunderstanding.

Yeah I would completely agree with this. The electronica stuff is fucking gone. Imo. I mean why would Axl want to do it? Bucket's gone. Brain's gone. Josh's gone. Robin's gone. I'm assuming Paul's gone. Do it because of Caram & Chris?

Nah. Even when they bust out Chinese Democracy, then roll into Jungle, it's jarring. It's like two different bands, two different entire energies. It's a momentum killer too.

I'm watching London 2012 tonight for the first time, and when they bust into Shackler's Revenge, it's... jarring. That's the only word I can think of. It's like the band is doing a cover... of a song they wrote, or at least half of it. At least Tommy, Dizzy, Richard & DJ's solo stuff melds in with the band currently. I watched Ron's solo, and it was like WTFx1,000,000. Chris looks totally bored by it, Richard is going through the motions like a robot, and only Frank seems to rally behind Ron.

So maybe all of the "we aren't recording" wasn't an Axl thing, but a band thing. Ron has a very eclectic taste in music, and his solos don't make up for his weirdness. His songs are more like comedy for shows on Adult Swim, than a guy coming up with legit ideas to merge into a new GN'R. I assume it's all tongue-in-cheek, or at least I hope it is.

The electronica stuff is just as out of place in 2015, as it was in 2005 frankly. It's been ten years  since it was FIVE years out of date. The only guys still remotely recording that music are Zombie & Manson. Even Reznor has sorta moved on.

Which then lends the question, would GN'R re-record the record again to fit a more mainsteam pop-rock format, or has it already been re-recorded like that, thus the DJ remixes of Better and Ron's acoustic takes?

Either way the future would be with the sound of THIS band. Which could easily fit in with rock radio as of the current. Going back to the Bucket days is like... cool... but makes NO sense. A reunion with old GN'R would be MORE current than the 1999-2002 period.

Those songs are lost cuts at this point. I think at best Oh My God, Silkworms and others would be iTunes/Digital bonus tracks with purchase at this point.

I watched this all the way through, and like the others I enjoyed the footage more than anything else. I got a few old-fashioned laughs, and tons of melancholy watching all this old GN'R footage from back in the day that it had been years since I really had sat down and watched it. I also saw the state of mind Axl was in then, just through his eyes more than anything, and you could see by 1992 especially, he wanted to be anywhere else on the planet than on a stage. The fact Axl basically said he shouldn't have been touring then, just confirms it looking back. His head was just as fractured and he was just as dillusioned with it all, no different than Kurt ended up being a couple years later.

Looking back over this footage, of Axl mentally, Duff physically, and Slash addictively... wow. It's still amazing that all of these guys are still alive today. Even with Izzy & Steven gone, it's a goddamn miracle that ALL of them weren't dead in some way, shape, or form by 1994/95.

And yes, just seeing this footage, hopefully one day "Perfect Crime" will see the light of day. Same with Chinese, in a Classic Albums form.