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#831 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:AtariLegend wrote:Is it too late to restart the election, ignore early voting and put Bernie up for election
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Bernie got fucked so hard. Sorry ID, but it is true.
Why do you keep saying this? He lost badly in the popular vote and pledged delegates. Could you stop quoting this nonsense already....Bernie made a lot of money he wasn't sharing down ballot, and I've told you before, he was not a democrat but was trying to take full advantage of the party to help himself. Why would they help him?
Yeah, Bernie got destroyed in the southern states. He would have never gotten more delegates than Clinton. And the party always has a favorite they prefer...so yeah they prefered Clinton over Sanders not a big deal.
#832 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:Opening a criminal investigation against a Presidential candidate 11 days before the election? It's a head shot.
A criminal investigation?
I love how you guys take one snippet, redefine it, and run with it like it's some big discovery.
Such is the way of the conspiracy theorist I guess.
I've learned to just laugh at some of the stuff that gets spun around from certain posters in this thread.
polluxlm wrote:bigbri wrote:That's the thing.
This isn't a game-changer because both are already known commodities. The problem for Trump is he's a shitstain on humanity, and nothing can change that.
I early voted like many people, so while Trump supporters will think this changes things, it really turns what was turning into a blowout into a closer race. Hell, Obama was ahead by 1 or behind in some polls at this time in 2012.
It's a game changer because the narrative just shifted. FBI is selling out Hillary, and if she goes Obama goes. It's so huge even those in the media deep in the tank for Hillary have to put it on the front page. Opening a criminal investigation against a Presidential candidate 11 days before the election? It's a head shot.
There is no criminal investigation. There isn't even an investigation. They are considering if the new info even warrants more action.
Yes, but it's more interesting to speculate mindlessly!
#833 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 498 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:New Fox Poll shows Clinton lead over Trump is down to 3.... This race IS NOT over.
National polls mean nothing
This. The state polls and the early voting patterns are more illuminating. Here's an anecdote from a republican candidate running for congress in NV:
#834 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Every one of those polls is Republican-leaning and mean nothing by themselves. Hundreds of other polls have it going the opposite way. There's truth in both, but you have to look at them as a whole, not individual polls.
State polls are what really matter anyway.
Yup, that LA Times/Daybreak is the most unreliable poll online. Paying attention to state polls ONLY, it paints a very bleak picture for Trump. Cramer posted it a few pages ago but states like Alaska and Texas are in play for Clinton, this is gonna be a blowout Only question is whether or not the Democrats control the Senate and House.
#835 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
What? I'd guess 330ish EVs for Hillary at least.
I'll be bullish and say she beats Obama 2008 EV of 365
Cramer wrote:Raw votes?
Won't even be close. Give me some of what you guys are smokin'.
The black vote will not be there like 2008. The Rednecks will turn out more than usual.
The suburban women in the end will come back some to Trump.
LOL. Hahahaha. You really think women will vote for Trump after all the shit that's been disclosed.
Reading you and Polluxm is like some sort of alternate reality.
There aren't enough rednecks to counteract the minority and latino and women vote.
#836 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 499 weeks ago
Red states are now in play: Alaska, Utah, Arizona etc. Not because the DNC planted protesters, but because the GOP put up an insane person to represent the party.
Alaska is now in play now? He has no money in ARZ so I'd expect a loss there. If you follow the money trail, it's obvious he'll get blown out and it'll have nothing to do with rigged elections or whatever the fuck Polluxm and Smoking Guns are talking about.
I'm predicting this thread is going to be flooded with endlees links to crazy pants conspiracy sites spouting imaginary reasons Trump is losing during election day. And I guarantee at least one link will involve the new black panther party and Obama.
The scary part is that a fair number of people in this country will believe all that crap that is spread.
#837 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
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Just out of curosity, did you actually read most of the wikileaks stuff? There wasn't much at all to report there.
#838 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:^ I'm worried he'll drag his loss out by refusing to concede and trying to file court cases. Who knows what could happen if he doesn't bow out of the election graciously.
Gawd what a horrible thought.
Not to worry. Trump will be in court afterward. There is a civil RICO case against him and Trump U. I'd say he has to worry about that first. Along with the claims that he sexually assulted an underage minor in the 1990s, he'll be in a court defending himself a lot.
#839 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 500 weeks ago
Whether he is purposely destroying the GOP, I don't know. But I think it's safe to say he doesn't care who, or what, he steamrolls as long as it can benefit him in the long run.
I have also read that he's all about the backend on this. No interest as POTUS, but ultimately a media empire of sorts. I am not sure if I believe that or not, although it certainly could be possible and may be profitable for a while. He may want to ask Glenn Beck how that worked out for him though...
Also I think if he did this for his brand, not anticipating getting this far ever, he probably did more harm than good.
This I believe. He sees this as a moneymaking opportunity. He just canceled about 1.6 million dollars in ad buys that were ticketed for swing states. What major candidate does this shit a few weeks away from the election? And the rumor mill says that his campaign might be out of cash.
#840 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 501 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:Wiki leaks starting to release stuff. Released 2000 emails from John Podesta tonight.
They've got nothing to change the game. If so, it would already be out there.
And if they do have a "smoking gun," then they are dumbfucks for not releasing it sooner. Early voting has already started in many swing states, and up to 50% of the votes in those states have already been cast.
Assange is just a rapist trying to curry favor with folks in power. He just picked the wrong side. Even though Trump did say he should be executed.
I read some of the excerpts that got released. There is nothing there incriminating there. I only read the ones where she gave speeches to banks and financial institutions. Kinda boring but nothing that will hurt her in the genral election.
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