LMAO...the funny thing is that's exactly what I thought when i saw that pic...then went like "oh i see...death...coffin.." and checked myself into sexbrain-rehab

Well ...just to play devil's advocate, it depends *why* the album never comes out. We are told it's some kind of business problem...it could be being released as some kind of tactic or demonstration in that battle.

I love GNR, but one thing is for sure, they don't always do what we would expect them to do. As much as I hope this is the beginning of a CD release rampage, we really should stick with what we know for sure, and the only offical thing is really one isolated song on a computer game.

Yeah...and releasing 4 at once would not only upstage the UYI "event" - but it would maximise the press coverage to an insane level and I think kinda boost things. Like if its one CD and 12 songs - even if the songs are all kickass the review is going to be "good songs..but was it worth a 15 year wait for an hour of music?" - if he releases like 45 songs the review will be more like "crazy axl...finally releaes his life's work...". I think he'd come off better.

I can see what you're getting at there and respect your opinion. We are in agreement that it is a hell of a lot of "If"s, I was just saying, well, you never know, it ain't always over till its over kinda thing.

While I would love to see a reunion as I believe musically Slash and Axl compliment each other to perfection in a way that is like 1 in 1000, my interest in that does not equate to me wanting CD to fail. Actually i'm a huge damn fan of the leaks and CD era songs.

Which is why for me this is always going to be a mixed senerio now. I'll always miss slash on the guitar in the AFD/UYI  part of the set, but a setlist with none of the CD era material would always seem lacking to me now too. So i'll pretty much be impossible to please from now on. Unless we get my day-dream senario with bumble+Slash (or bucket+Slash but that's less likely - as it's two reunion bridges to cross) where slash plays rhythm for BBF on the CD era songs, and BBF plays rhythm for slash on the old material. It would NEVER hapen though I guess!!!! Too much to ask for!

Anyway so although I do love Slash, I'm no hater of the CD era tunes. I can see your viewpoint though as perhaps some people who bring up reunions are. I think the other reason people talk about it though is because Axl doesn't seem able to present a viable sustainable GNR line up. I'm not knocking the music...but the reality is the band is always in flux...Yes there were some casulties in the old days, like steven and izzy. But in the UYI era you could say who was in the band for sure. That's not how its been since 2000....Huge, Brain, Robin...who knows if they are even gone or not...we know bucket is gone...I think there would be less calls for reunions if we'd been given a firm GNR line up. With no reunions of any kind (old band or 2001 era band) then what you have will be a tour line up to support the new album of people who not only didn't play on AFD, Lies or UYI but mostly didn't play on CD too.

Much as I think if Scott is going to be as annoying as Axl to Slash - why wouldn't he go back to Axl.  I think the same is true for Axl - if everyone who joins the band end up quitting, eventually maybe he'd consider fixing some of the old relationships who he knows he writes good stuff with instead of auditioning GNR relacments round #6

Anyway...sorry i derailed the thread!

They don't need the money..but maybe it's not about money. While VR and the other bands have enjoyed some success. GNR is by far the most recgonisable thing these guys will ever do in their lifetime. They will be harassed  by GNR fans, asked GNR interview questions for the rest of time. When they die, they will be remembered as the founders of GNR. It must be annoying to be that person, and watch other people play shows under your name. Maybe they want their kids to see what they really were back in the day by playing a reunion show and the attention that would bring. Maybe the feel nostalgic about the old friendships. There are many reasons why they might want a reunion.

I'll partially agree with this one. The reason slash quit GNR was the cancelled shows and late starts that he saw as disrespectful to the rest of the band and fans. This shit hasn't changed. Hiowever even this isn't impossible. Axl is clearly less problamatic than he used to be. There's still late starts..but his record has improved somewhat. Maybe they can be convinced. Also  if  other singers are premadonas...then that could change their view. Turn it around - if Scott and Axl are going to put you through the same shit - why not put up with it in GNR where everything else is maximised? (money, fan respect, fame, potential for hits)

Axl may eventually come to the realisation that the others in the band have talents that are not easily replaced. Half of why he wanted to take control was the drug issues and things that have now been sorted out.  Time heals wounds. If he has some songs that he thought needed slash's touch - why not call him? Because the Axl of 27 got angry at him? why should the man he is today care about that. And slash and the guys know damn well axl is one of the best  singers in the world. That 1995 interview with slash that neemo posted the other day showed that slash will come to the table to sort out shit even after there's been a lot of trouble. All he needs is some validation that there's an intent for things to be different.

Agreed..for us fanboys. But the general public wouldn't give a shit. How often is VR refered to as 3/5 of GNR? No one cares than Matt was the 2nd drummer. The general public wants to see Axl + Slash together and will except any line up with those two as a legitimate GNR, with Duff as well the deal is sealed. They could use richard, gliby, or anyone else for a tour without any issue. Recording wise - well slash and izzy already had a CD or more of GNR songs ready to go a few years ago that never came to anything I think.

Agreed - IF he did it with no album. What if he releases 4 albums this year in one hit. Thus equaling the ENTIRE output of the old band!!! That's no failure!!! Once he has done that - what then? Go hire new people to replace robin and record a new album? Just as easy to call slash. Musically there are some differences...but at least 50% of the leaks we have could have been done by the old band...theres still a hell of a lot of similarities for them to find common ground.

I'm not saying there IS going to be a reunion. All i'm saying is I don't think its out of the question like you seem to. Especially not once CD is actually out there and finished with. Then its just time.