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#901 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling IV » 769 weeks ago
I'd like to trade Beth Phoenix for Chris Jericho
Damn you.
Also will post scores once I figure out what to do with the previous week's gaunlet match. Need input from the rest of you.
#902 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 769 weeks ago
That was one of the most boringly written and booked RAWs I've seen in a while. Also Zack Ryder is supposed to be lame, he's not meant to be serious or cool, he's meant to be a dork.
The divas do blow- well with exception of Natalya & Beth. Layla and Karma are decent but they're both injured just now.
The Kane ending was pretty much on the same level as shit that happened back in the Attitude Era; Undertaker crucified people!
The major problem is that episode was just booked boring. Can't find talent interesting if you don't give them something interesting to do.
Also the Jericho thing was annoying but I think that was the point.
#903 Re: The Garden » Happy Holidays » 769 weeks ago
I dont remember the past two days at all
#904 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 769 weeks ago
Brock Lesnar was the WORST wrestler in the history of WWE wrestlers.
Makes Cena look like HBK.
Lesnar was pretty good, and Cena's not that bad
#905 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 770 weeks ago
Should finally have WWE 12 for 360 soon, just ordered it today.
#906 Re: The Garden » Fantasy Wrestling IV » 770 weeks ago
On last night's Raw there was a Gaunlet match. Not only that but it was in the main event. I'm trying to figure out how to score this exactly, so I figured I'd post the different ideas for scoring a gaunlet that I've come up with and let you guys pick which set you think is the fairest.
1. Count each match in the Gaunlet as a seperate match. If the person facing the gaunlet wins, they receive on top of the points they got from the individual matches, +6 gimmick match points.
2. Count the entire gaunlet at one match and score it like a handicap match e.g. extra opponents etc. With the opponents in the gaunlet counting as eliminations, +6 gimmick match points.
Basically do I count both the Swagger match, and the Ziggler match as two individual matches. If so do they both count as main event. Or do I count them as just the same match. Do I add gimmick match bonus points as well???
#907 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 770 weeks ago
For those who missed it
#908 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 770 weeks ago
That Kane promo to end Raw was phenomenal.
#909 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 770 weeks ago
I agree with you there, to a degree- it would be bad if Triple H lost too much, but hell he's only had four matches this year and is not a regular, he really should have done the job to Punk if they don't plan to use him in a full-time in ring capacity. Also this was not required:
[uTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pWYPChOYHk[/uTube]
He helped get Sheamus over earlier in the year by laying down for Sheamus (after Sheamus had attacked him backstage). He returns, Sheamus comes out and gets buried.
This is a guy who just recently won King of the Ring and was a 2-time WWE Champion at the time. He's meant to be one of the stars for the future and that helped no one. Triple H is already over, we just need a three minute video package of him brutalising people to remind us of that. Don't need him to bury a fresh new main event talent.
I agree with Orton- he is dull, used to find him a whole lot more entertaining. That said he has become phenomenal in ring this year.
They need to establish some new top talent fast, and they are doing that to a degree. The quickest thing to do is of course elevate the talent that's been stuck at the fringes of the main event scene with one final big push. They did that with Christian this year, giving him his first two title reigns, they've done it with Henry, and they're doing it again with Kane. These are recognisable faces from the Attitude Era that can be built up fairly quickly with a few solid big clean wins, that are reliable vets in the ring that can help the new talent, so it's not all doom and gloom... the only problem is they need to be doing more of it, where they can, and fast.
#910 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 770 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:After Austins original leaving in 2002 while Rock was off making films, till the Cena era began in 05.
Brock Lesnar
Kurt Angle
Undertaker - Who certainly wasn't a guest spot wrestler back then
Goldberg
Booker T
Rob Van Dam
Shawn Michaels - Game back shortly after Austim left in the 02 run
Chris Jericho
Ric Flair
Eddie Guerrero
Chris BenoitAll way more over than Triple H including Merch. 3 of which were buried by Triple H.
Throw in guys in that era in the midcard, like Jeff Hardy and Edge ect. Triple H carry that era?
When Triple H came back from that torn quad, he was getting big face for the first real time in his career, it lasted a few months. What came after was an injured Triple H refusing to drop the title and using politics to bury and stop guys like RVD and Booker T winning the title back when they were at there peak. That's to name a few.
That was also the infamous "Katie Vick" era.
You really think guys like
Brock Lesnar
Goldberg
Booker T
Rob Van Dam
Ric Flair
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Benoitwere carrying the era? Fuck no. They were good because they had in ring talent with little to know talent on the mic and got to work with other Great performesr IE: Angle, HHH, Taker etc. . No fucking way guys like Benoit ever carried their storylines. It was always carried by the guy he was feuding with. Goldberg sucked on the mic, Lesnar sucked on the mic(he's actuallya better persona in MMA than he ever was in WWE), Booker T, RVD sucked on the mic, Flair was good on the mic but was so past his prime it was not even funny.
I'll give you Undertaker, Jericho and Angle and to an extent HBK but HBK was ruined when they had him start jobbing to everyone including Hogan. Why the fuck did The Rock not have to job to Hogan yet HBK did? That was fucking bad move on WWE's part, expecially considering HBK was the only guy who sold that feud.
Triple H did carry that era. He was the legit superstar who could feud with everyone, carry every angle regardless of what it was and pull it off in spades. Take him out of that era and they've got a problem.
Guys like RVD and Booker T needed to be stopped because theyd' have just gotten the title for shits and giggles. Just because. Triple H did try to help put Benoit over and look how that worked. Benoit sucked and RVD and Booker T are argueably just as bad as Benoit so why would they devalue Triple H just to put guys over just because? You put guys over if they have the ability to take the ball and run. None of those guys did. Except maybe Lesnar who's heart wasn't ever really in it anyways.
Axl S wrote:Speaking of Orton and Triple H... Orton on his best heel run ever, has just won the Rumble, SHOULD, be going into WM25 Main Event and winning the title from HHH.... instead gets the belt at the next PPV in some stupid tag match thing...at Backlash.
Orton sucks. I'd rather watch paint dry
Okay but why do you think Orton sucks? Elaborate?
I know exactly why I find him boring, could rattle of the reasons right now, but I know he can be a lot better than he currently is.
You can't know if they have the ability to take the ball and run until they are given the oppurtunity to take the ball and run. And they can't be given that oppurtunity unless they are made to look like a big deal, and the way they do that is by putting people over.
Also HBK didn't go over Hogan, because Hogan refused to do the job to HBK, so Shawn oversold that match like hell. 
Also Booker was pretty good on the mic, not the best but good enough to carry a story if given the chance and he was really over!
