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#981 Re: Guns N' Roses » Dissecting Chinese Democracy: Track 2 - Shackler's Revenge » 921 weeks ago

I love the layered vocals on this track. 

I listened to it a lot when it first came out.  It's pretty catchy.

#982 Re: The Sunset Strip » Poison's Bret Michaels Pens Tell-All Book » 921 weeks ago

Rex wrote:
russtcb wrote:

Wow. I guess I'm alone in thinking this would be useless.

I've got your back.  Bret Michaels is a washed up douchebag and I couldn't care less about him writing a book.

I'm of the same opinion on this book.  Then again, I think a lot of autobiographies are useless.  Did you hear Miley Cyrus is writing one? 14

#984 Re: The Sunset Strip » Chris Cornell- Scream » 921 weeks ago

I think the biggest problem with Cornell working with Slash is Slash's own complacency when it comes to music. 

I agree they could write some damn good songs together.  I'd rather see Cornell and Izzy work together.

#985 Re: The Garden » funny » 921 weeks ago

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I have to admit, that was fucking hilarious.  9

#986 Re: The Garden » Teen kills 15 in Germany before taking own life » 921 weeks ago

Things are getting bad quickly.  There's a lot of stories like this coming out quite often now, and I'm sure we're not even hearing all of them.

#987 Re: The Sunset Strip » Chris Cornell- Scream » 921 weeks ago

I think if Cornell wants to keep going with this style he needs to find someone who can make it work.  Him and Timbaland just aren't a good combo.  They don't gel well together and there's just no chemistry there.  It's sad when Chris writes some pretty good lyrics, but when backed with Timbaland's music they seem awful.  The presentation just isn't there. 

I think Climbing Up the Walls is the best song on the album.  The actual album version of it sounds a lot more like a rock track, and is probably now the most rock orientated song on the album.  They added in live drums and live guitar into the mix all throughout the song and it really adds more depth to the song. 

This album doesn't hold up to the rest of his past however.  I still think the opening track is pretty corny.

#988 Re: The Sunset Strip » First Listen: Green Day's '21st Century Breakdown' » 921 weeks ago

How does a man beating up a woman, and using the word 'fag' in a comedic manner to describe a weak rock song equal the same thing?

You said-

Kind of hypocritcal from a Guns N' Roses board, supporting a band with a clearly racist and homophobic song.

So, by that logic, it is clearly hypocritical as well to not support Chris Brown's actions since you are also a fan of Axl, who has been involved in many domestic abuse suites himself. 

And if Green Day fans take offense at being called gay - it's because they're homophobic themselves. What's offensive about being called gay? There's nothing wrong with the orientation, and it should be accepted and tolorated.

Also weak.  People like to be called what they are.  They don't like it when people call them something they are not.  It just doesn't just imply to being gay either.  If people call you a pussy, you may take offense to it if you don't see yourself that way.  If people call you a geek because you get good grades you may take offense if you really aren't a geek and just happen to be able to get good grades without trying. 

So if you call Green Day fans gay, I'm sure a lot of them are going to take offense.  Just like I take offense when people call me gay because I like GNR, it doesn't make sense for them to do that.

#989 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R showing signs of being labeled an "epic fail". » 921 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Saikin wrote:

There's no way this album has a chance at an AFD style response.  No way.  AFD was culturally significant.  It was very much of it's time.  Chinese Democracy is about Axl.  It won't be culturally significant the way AFD was, even if they promote the hell out of it. 

Like James said, if GNR had done this right (like U2), there would have been a significant increase in sales.

With all due respect Saiken, you have the benefit of hindsight perspective. It's very hard to predict these things...one things for sure...it does take someone doing something way out of the ordinary for his/her time. although some say the sound is 'dated,' I think we all can agree that it is different.

I do very much enjoy the album and still listen to it. I have my favs (Prostitute, TWAT, This I Love, Sorry). I think if you expected 10 million copies sold in the first 3 months, you were only fooling yourself.

There is something to be said for this way of conducting business...he's letting the music speak for itself. I highly doubt that many albums sell the way that the used to anyway. The days of 15 million albums sold is probably over, anyway.

It really isn't so much hindsight as it is Marketing 101.  The more you promote, the more you sell.

I was never expecting this to shatter records or go platinum the first day of release.  But there really was no way this album was going to be culturally significant in 2008.  It's true that he's letting the music speak for itself, and for no promotion having been done, it actually sold pretty good I'd say.

#990 Re: The Sunset Strip » First Listen: Green Day's '21st Century Breakdown' » 921 weeks ago

Kind of hypocritcal from a Guns N' Roses board, supporting a band with a clearly racist and homophobic song.

Then by that same logic, go through the Rihanna thread and delete every single post you made that didn't support what Chris Brown did.

Seriously, that's a pretty bad statement when you were on the other side of the fence in another conversation.  Or is it just relative upon your opinions?  If you don't like domestic abuse, then that argument is bad.  If you like using gay-slurs, then that argument is good. 14

3) I figured the fact that I mentioned the great, late, and gay Freddie Mercury must be spinning in his grave, a negative comment towards Green Day being compared to Queen, would reinforce the humor in the song being fag, and also make it very clear that it's not homophobic.

4) I think it's very gay that I have to explain all of this. I suggest a sense of humor, and to also not pick specific words out of statements, throw them out of context, simply because I insulted your beloved Green Day.

This is a classic example of what not to do when arguing.  Just because you referenced Freddie Mercury (and he's gay) doesn't mean it makes you not homophobic or takes out the offense of any of your statements.  It doesn't reinforce the statement, it actually makes it worse.

I don't see how this is throwing it out of context when you called all Green Day fans gay.  That's clearly offensive and I'm sure offensive to some people on this board as they are themselves, Green Day fans.

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