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bigbri
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

bigbri wrote:

yeah man, space is awesome. love me some astronomy

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

PaSnow wrote:

One things for sure, Hillary is DEFINITELY having the 'womanhood' angle being pushed.  I bet November isn't about swing states, independants, latinos or blacks.  I bet the woman vote does overtake it (and half the men give up & don't even vote 16)

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:
Acquiesce wrote:

Is an oligarch really an outsider, though?

Which oligarch are you referring to? So many have Hillary in their back pocket I've lost count.  19

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Cramer wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Watch his statement. It's a joke for christ sake.

I agree it's a 'joke', but man.  Siding with a foreign country over hacking is pretty close to encouraging espionage.  Are we not sane here??


His whole campaign is just comical. I think in time his ego, quick talking & wittiness will just get the best of him.  Then again, I've said that since September.


Joke or not, Loose lips sink ships. Is this the guy who is going to be privy to highly classified intel?

Trump isn't capable of not running his mouth. Knee Jerk is all he knows.


Hillary mishandled classified material. End of discussion. If this is the basis of your argument, someone you think may versus someone who did, there's nothing more to discuss.

It's ludicrous you guys are more outraged over what Trump said versus what Clinton and the DNC have actually done.

Do you ignore the rapist and focus on the guy who threatened to rape someone over Twitter?

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

It's ludicrous you guys are more outraged over what Trump said versus what Clinton and the DNC have actually done.

Do you ignore the rapist and focus on the guy who threatened to rape someone over Twitter?

It's ludicrous this guys the #2 person for the Presidency right now.  All Donald Trump is, is someone who's hating on Hillary right now (oh she attended his wedding btw, so it's all an act).  He has little to no other qualifications right now, yet a bunch of GOPers are all up in arms looking to elect him in.

I'm not saying he should be charged, or it's criminal, but just the fact a person running for President is encouraging RUSSIA TO RELEASE MATERIALS OBTAINED VIA HACKING is just perplexing?!  Even moreso considering he's a Republican (well,  he's running on the Republican ticket at least, although he's a Democrat.  The emperor has no clothes as they say) Is he even aware of what he's saying. GOP Politicans are running for the hills from him, Mike Pence is just at retirement stage of his public service career & phoning it in, Ohio Gov Kasich (who should've won) probably turned down the VP nod. It's great, it truly is, it's just some guy up there wingin it.  The best part is he's just some NYC Manhatten liberal too.  Throw on a Nascar hat, say you like guns and live thru the Bible, and that alone wins you about 14 states.  Like c'mon, really?!

Since W the GOP has been over. McCain was always quasi-independant, Palin was a disaster, Romney was never a true conservative esp on social issues, I didn't mind Paul Ryan, I think he's on the right track, but I think he just doesn't 'have it' for whatever that means. Sorta like Bobby Jindal, and he'll just remain Speaker of the House & other prominent roles. Myb he can win in 4-8 years.  Now Donald Trump steals it right out from under 10+ other candidates!  I get it, Trump isn't an 'establishment guy'. I do think if Trump ran a more serious, levleheaded campaign like Ross Perot he could be a legitimate candidate, and maybe even be a decent President. I think he does have that 'Put the best person in place' mentality which probably is what you need (I don't think the President does everything and knows everything, I think they mostly take input & feedback), and if he selected the choices to his heart in a non-partisan way on  things like Defense, Economy etc, he could do well. Plus he is a good motivator and explains things to the people well. This tho, this is for the birds. He is Teflon Don tho, so no this won't stick, nor does any of it seem to.

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

buzzsaw wrote:

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump. Literally that's it. She can't be trusted with national security any more than trump can for very different reasons. That doesn't make her less dangerous.

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

bigbri wrote:

Today's Rasmussen poll is very interesting. Rasmussen always gives the GOP in all its polls an edge. Must be their pool.

At any rate, today Clinton has taken a lead, albeit just one point, 43-42. She hasn't led since mid-June.

The poll was taken after the GOP convention and after the first 2 days of the DNC. If Rasmussen is trending this way, my guess is a ton of polls in the next week are going to reflect a similar shift in the race.

Full report: http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_co … ouse_watch

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump.

That, plus her degree in law, years working as an advocate for childrens causes in Arkansas & later in the white house, pushed for US healthcare reform, time as US Senator, later Secretary of State.

So yeah, aside from those 30 years, all she is is 'not Trump'.  But then again, she didn't just make money in NYC real estate & open a coupla casinos, so there's that.

I admit she has her faults & scandals, but it's a stretch to say she's just 'not Trump' as her qualification for a high political office. Trump on the other hand, has little to no qualifications, so it really isn't a reciprical argument.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

PaSnow wrote:

My thing is this, I predict his tax returns show contributions made in past years to funds like Obama's campaign, Hillarys (if he releases back to 2008),, the Dems, Moveon.org, Dem leaning PACs, Planned Parenthood etc... and not a nickel to the NRA.


Then he'll have a good amount of 'splainin to do:D

We'll see.

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

buzzsaw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump.

That, plus her degree in law, years working as an advocate for childrens causes in Arkansas & later in the white house, pushed for US healthcare reform, time as US Senator, later Secretary of State.

So yeah, aside from those 30 years, all she is is 'not Trump'.  But then again, she didn't just make money in NYC real estate & open a coupla casinos, so there's that.

I admit she has her faults & scandals, but it's a stretch to say she's just 'not Trump' as her qualification for a high political office. Trump on the other hand, has little to no qualifications, so it really isn't a reciprical argument.

No, not a stretch at all. All those legal degrees and experiencesdidn't stop her from violating the law.  Her biggest sec of state accomplishment is benghazi.  She lies, she exaggerates her accomplishments, and she is in the back pocket of bad, powerful people.  None of that is good. She's as morally corrupt as they come.

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