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misterID
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I can't believe people are still defending Hillary...  all she has going for her at this point is she's not trump.

That, plus her degree in law, years working as an advocate for childrens causes in Arkansas & later in the white house, pushed for US healthcare reform, time as US Senator, later Secretary of State.

So yeah, aside from those 30 years, all she is is 'not Trump'.  But then again, she didn't just make money in NYC real estate & open a coupla casinos, so there's that.

I admit she has her faults & scandals, but it's a stretch to say she's just 'not Trump' as her qualification for a high political office. Trump on the other hand, has little to no qualifications, so it really isn't a reciprical argument.

No, not a stretch at all. All those legal degrees and experiencesdidn't stop her from violating the law.  Her biggest sec of state accomplishment is benghazi.  She lies, she exaggerates her accomplishments, and she is in the back pocket of bad, powerful people.  None of that is good. She's as morally corrupt as they come.

You said ad nauseam everyone is like that, so whatcha bitching about?

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

I love how the dems want you to ignore the content of those emails. I don't give a damn who released them, the contents of the emails are what's relevant. Sweet baby Jesus....

Hillary is in bed with Putin while people think Trump is sucking his cock. What a wonderful world. Got a good laugh reading twitter feeds today.

That one guy had the nerve to say Putin is "afraid" of Hillary. Really?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca … .html?_r=0

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/ … -security/

HIllary did business with the "enemy". Guess we better lock her up for treason. Obviously I don't think its treason but I don't think this Trump issue is either.

Hillary is bought and paid for by every corporation from here to Timbuktu.....and she's in Russia's back pocket as well. But we have to pretend this isn't true because an outsider that the establishment hates is running.


TheMOle.....great post but its too lengthy for me to respond to it line by line at the moment. I'll get to it later. I do have one thing to say.....I am not someone who denies global warming is real. I read that again and it appeared I was mocking it due to stating other planets are heating up. I googled the debunkers and of course they say the opposite....the Sun is cooling down! I guess we no longer have to worry since its getting colder, not hotter.

It hasn't been debunked. Like many issues, there are differing opinions.

I also didn't know you were an astronomy buff. I know Bri is. Polluxlm to an extent. I should start posting more space news. The past couple years has been amazing on this subject.

It should absolutely concern you who hacked those files and why they released them.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Cramer wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I agree it's a 'joke', but man.  Siding with a foreign country over hacking is pretty close to encouraging espionage.  Are we not sane here??


His whole campaign is just comical. I think in time his ego, quick talking & wittiness will just get the best of him.  Then again, I've said that since September.


Joke or not, Loose lips sink ships. Is this the guy who is going to be privy to highly classified intel?

Trump isn't capable of not running his mouth. Knee Jerk is all he knows.


Hillary mishandled classified material. End of discussion. If this is the basis of your argument, someone you think may versus someone who did, there's nothing more to discuss.

It's ludicrous you guys are more outraged over what Trump said versus what Clinton and the DNC have actually done.

Do you ignore the rapist and focus on the guy who threatened to rape someone over Twitter?

That's a very strange analogy to this situation. Her predecessors did the same. Where was this outrage from you guys when the Bush administration mishandled intelligence that sent us to war, which DID kill thousands of people.

Trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders ain't even close to being on the same level as rape.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
Cramer wrote:

Joke or not, Loose lips sink ships. Is this the guy who is going to be privy to highly classified intel?

Trump isn't capable of not running his mouth. Knee Jerk is all he knows.


Hillary mishandled classified material. End of discussion. If this is the basis of your argument, someone you think may versus someone who did, there's nothing more to discuss.

It's ludicrous you guys are more outraged over what Trump said versus what Clinton and the DNC have actually done.

Do you ignore the rapist and focus on the guy who threatened to rape someone over Twitter?

That's a very strange analogy to this situation. Her predecessors did the same. Where was this outrage from you guys when the Bush administration mishandled intelligence that sent us to war, which DID kill thousands of people.

Trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders ain't even close to being on the same level as rape.


No her predecessors didn't do the same. None of them setup private servers in their house, housed and shared classified material, and then lied about it. More importantly, the laws and guidance changed between Powell and Clinton.

Jefferson had slaves, so can Clinton own them too?  These false equivalencies and mental gymnastics you perform to avoid acknowledging Clinton was/is in a league of her own is astonishing.

Did you even have an email account in 2001?  I know a lot of people didn't. And Powell wasn't discussing significant events over his Juno account. He flat out stated he rarely used email, whereas everything Clinton did was over her own personal email sever, despite being advised repeatedly against it.

When the October surprise comes, what's your excuse going to be?

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:

It should absolutely concern you who hacked those files and why they released them.

I'm more concerned with what's IN the files.....as should every voter. Hillary and the DNC wont even attempt a denial because they know its all true so they have to blame Russia and Trump but want a free pass on what they themselves did. It's disgusting.

With this email shit hovering over the dems, IMO polls don't mean much right now. It'll likely stay even steven for awhile.  The October surprise is going to be the biggest one in history. Going to prove she lied, how corrupt she really is, and last but certainly not least, that the FBI and State Department covered it up. I guarantee that Hillary prays every single day those emails do not come out because she isn't electable if they do. Those emails leak....its over regardless of who is running against her.

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Hillary mishandled classified material. End of discussion. If this is the basis of your argument, someone you think may versus someone who did, there's nothing more to discuss.

It's ludicrous you guys are more outraged over what Trump said versus what Clinton and the DNC have actually done.

Do you ignore the rapist and focus on the guy who threatened to rape someone over Twitter?

That's a very strange analogy to this situation. Her predecessors did the same. Where was this outrage from you guys when the Bush administration mishandled intelligence that sent us to war, which DID kill thousands of people.

Trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders ain't even close to being on the same level as rape.


No her predecessors didn't do the same. None of them setup private servers in their house, housed and shared classified material, and then lied about it. More importantly, the laws and guidance changed between Powell and Clinton.

Jefferson had slaves, so can Clinton own them too?  These false equivalencies and mental gymnastics you perform to avoid acknowledging Clinton was/is in a league of her own is astonishing.

Did you even have an email account in 2001?  I know a lot of people didn't. And Powell wasn't discussing significant events over his Juno account. He flat out stated he rarely used email, whereas everything Clinton did was over her own personal email sever, despite being advised repeatedly against it.

When the October surprise comes, what's your excuse going to be?

Yes, Powell did send classified material over private email, so did Rice. Again, you're going to the well with a REAL false equivalences with slaves. We're talking how intelligence was used, misused and what the consequences were.

James, what in the DNC emails have you so up in arms?

What October surprise?

You guys support Trump, logic does not apply. I'm not trying to be mean, but you're following a huckster. I know Hillary, good and bad, I still take her by a country mile over the tangerine.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:
misterID wrote:

James, what in the DNC emails have you so up in arms?

THis shit for starters.....







Here's a doozy....





Subject: Re: Problem brewing in Rhode Island

From: Walker, Eric
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 6:30 PM
To: CaucusGroup; Wilson, Erin; Wei, Shu-Yen; Miranda, Luis; Pratt Wiley; Jefferson, Deshundra
Subject: Problem brewing in Rhode Island
New report shows RI gov’t opening only a fraction of polling locations: http://www.bustle.com/articles/156771-w ... -locations Bernie leads Hillary by 4 in the latest poll: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... -wins.html If she outperforms this polling, the Bernie camp will go nuts and allege misconduct. They’ll probably complain regardless, actually. We might want to get out in front of this one with an inquiry to the RI Gov, even though she’s one of ours.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4925




From:BrinsterJ@dnc.org To: Comm_D@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-04 20:14 Subject: FW: ICYMI: Bernie Sanders would be Donald Trump's worst nightmare; Hillary, not so much


1. Like Donald's other fallen foes, Hillary Clinton represents the political establishment.

2. Hillary's millions of dollars worth of paid speeches to banks, lobbyists and billionaires cede a certain moral high ground to Donald Trump.

3. Independent and new voters are flocking to Bernie Sanders and even to Donald Trump, but not to Hillary Clinton.

4. Hillary's reliance on millions of dollars from SuperPACs is a real problem.

5. Young voters are crazy about Bernie Sanders and just don't care Hillary Clinton.

This race isn't new anymore. People know enough about Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton to make an informed decision. I believe these polls are accurate. The team at FiveThirtyEight stated that they believe the polls between Trump and Clinton will continue to narrow.

We can all agree that Trump must be stopped, but this much is clear - Hillary Clinton is not the best opponent to stop him.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6216

Here's more.....



DNC member killing horses for insurance money.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578
DNC making fun of black womans name.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942
DNC telling each other, “I love you too. no homo.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425
DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107
DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450
DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776
DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a “rigged system.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806
DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762
Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351




DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin’s office.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867
DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304
DNC discussing Hillary’s policies as unfeasible.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519 This one is posted down below...
$200k for a private dinner with Hillary.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287
Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366
Faking outrage and pasting in a video later.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793
Bringing up Sanders religion to scare the southern voters.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508
Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230
Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808
DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077
Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803
Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a cooridanted campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784
DNC is upset that their “allies” didn’t send in protestors so they sent out interns.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366
“Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351


$50,000 – Lawrence Benenson.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700
Daily Fundraising Report for the DNC.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875
Content & Social Strategy Discussion.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512
Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933
Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586
Fwd: State Dinner Countdown.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901
Some chick is angry she hasn’t been given more stuff from the Obama administration…might be interesting to follow up.
Re: State Dinner Countdown.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946
Tim O’Brien: Trump’s Fixation on Inflating his Net Worth is a Cause for Concern.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496
RE: May Fundraising Numbers.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720
Hillary for America Raised $26.4 Million in April, Began May with More than $30 Million Cash on Hand.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986
Re: For approval: Trump supporter graphics.
https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788


Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728
Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087
DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148
Democrats using interns to organize fake “protests.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830
RE: Action on DNC tomorrow (Immigration Raids).
https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736






Chew on that for awhile and then dig deeper. Actually read it. Look forward to seeing you defend it after reading that. After reading it, you wont give a flying fuck if ALF leaked it from Melmack.

misterID wrote:

What October surprise?

Its obviously going to be the Benghazi emails.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 330 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:

The Russian thing doesn't bother me at all. I don't get this uproar. Lofton is right.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
misterID wrote:

That's a very strange analogy to this situation. Her predecessors did the same. Where was this outrage from you guys when the Bush administration mishandled intelligence that sent us to war, which DID kill thousands of people.

Trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders ain't even close to being on the same level as rape.


No her predecessors didn't do the same. None of them setup private servers in their house, housed and shared classified material, and then lied about it. More importantly, the laws and guidance changed between Powell and Clinton.

Jefferson had slaves, so can Clinton own them too?  These false equivalencies and mental gymnastics you perform to avoid acknowledging Clinton was/is in a league of her own is astonishing.

Did you even have an email account in 2001?  I know a lot of people didn't. And Powell wasn't discussing significant events over his Juno account. He flat out stated he rarely used email, whereas everything Clinton did was over her own personal email sever, despite being advised repeatedly against it.

When the October surprise comes, what's your excuse going to be?

Yes, Powell did send classified material over private email, so did Rice. Again, you're going to the well with a REAL false equivalences with slaves. We're talking how intelligence was used, misused and what the consequences were.

James, what in the DNC emails have you so up in arms?

What October surprise?

You guys support Trump, logic does not apply. I'm not trying to be mean, but you're following a huckster. I know Hillary, good and bad, I still take her by a country mile over the tangerine.


Do you have any evidence Powell and rice sent classified material over private  email?

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

bigbri wrote:

I'm gonna research Gary Johnson in the next couple weeks.

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