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Randall Flagg
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I assume you mean from the helicopter?  Who the hell am I, but my first guess would be the standard blinking light on all aircraft. The obvious question is why would you fire from a helicopter when you have stationary sniper nest. Did anyone find brass on the ground from the expended rounds fired above?

YouTube videos don’t get much creeedence in my book, but I admittedly demand a much higher standard of evidence than most. I guess it’s the auditor in me.

The color is too white. Gun fire has an orange hue to its muzzle burst and the frequency of that light appears to me as in time rather than chaotic.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I assume you mean from the helicopter?  Who the hell am I, but my first guess would be the standard blinking light on all aircraft. The obvious question is why would you fire from a helicopter when you have stationary sniper nest. Did anyone find brass on the ground from the expended rounds fired above?

YouTube videos don’t get much creeedence in my book, but I admittedly demand a much higher standard of evidence than most. I guess it’s the auditor in me.

The color is too white. Gun fire has an orange hue to its muzzle burst and the frequency of that light appears to me as in time rather than chaotic.

Not from the helicopter, but to the right of the video on the roof of another building there are flashes.

I'm with you, though. I don't think a second shooter was there and have seen nothing to convince me there was.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

There are helicopters flying all around the Strip 24/7. We also have an abundance of light shining all over the place.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

There were people trying to say the Franken picture was doctored and fake. Even after he copped to it. If you want to find some conspiracy the internet will help you find it.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

The best way of explaining it I've seen yet:


Randall Flagg
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Can anyone share an intelligent and reasoned article on the pros and cons of net neutrality?  I want to have an informed opinion and all the top hits on google are hyperbole and nightmare scenarios that conveniently ignore that Canada lacks net neutrality and none of these doomsday prophecies have manifested.  I’m looking for something a little more nuanced than 5 paragraphs of predictions or a meme. Kudos to anyone who’s researched the issue and can share some literature.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can anyone share an intelligent and reasoned article on the pros and cons of net neutrality?  I want to have an informed opinion and all the top hits on google are hyperbole and nightmare scenarios that conveniently ignore that Canada lacks net neutrality and none of these doomsday prophecies have manifested.  I’m looking for something a little more nuanced than 5 paragraphs of predictions or a meme. Kudos to anyone who’s researched the issue and can share some literature.

In short, all you're going to find is the same stuff over and over again...it's not complicated stuff...it doesn't need need pages and pages to be written about it.

It's not just about porn...I think it's about anyone who uses large  amounts data. People who play video games...

It's just like everything else the Trump administration has done. It's giving more power to huge corporations so they can save money and fuck all of us in the ass. It's not helpful to the average internet user....it's very helpful to telecommunications companies who can't ever seem to get enough out of my pocket.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can anyone share an intelligent and reasoned article on the pros and cons of net neutrality?  I want to have an informed opinion and all the top hits on google are hyperbole and nightmare scenarios that conveniently ignore that Canada lacks net neutrality and none of these doomsday prophecies have manifested.  I’m looking for something a little more nuanced than 5 paragraphs of predictions or a meme. Kudos to anyone who’s researched the issue and can share some literature.

Short & to the point




and this, tho WaPo tends to lean: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the … 34bf6f78f7

Essentially Internet Providers can charge websites on the backend added fees for large caps for data (Netflix, Vimeo, Amazon Prime, Facebook Live). However, think of how fast the technology has advanced the past 10 years since YT. All the new sites & innovations. In addition, Comcast & Verizon can freely push their own sites without charging on the backend, leading to unfair competition. I recall Comcast attempted to create their own model of Netflix called Streampix or something, a horrible disater. And for a while Verizon was aligned with Redbox's streaming service, which I think has since been given up on.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can anyone share an intelligent and reasoned article on the pros and cons of net neutrality?  I want to have an informed opinion and all the top hits on google are hyperbole and nightmare scenarios that conveniently ignore that Canada lacks net neutrality and none of these doomsday prophecies have manifested.  I’m looking for something a little more nuanced than 5 paragraphs of predictions or a meme. Kudos to anyone who’s researched the issue and can share some literature.

This is not really a nuanced article, and I don't know (seriously) if Popular Mechanics has a political agenda (should they?), but this paints a pretty dire picture.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol … peal-2017/

The main thing is, if it's not broke, why try to fix it?

Randall Flagg
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PaSnow wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Can anyone share an intelligent and reasoned article on the pros and cons of net neutrality?  I want to have an informed opinion and all the top hits on google are hyperbole and nightmare scenarios that conveniently ignore that Canada lacks net neutrality and none of these doomsday prophecies have manifested.  I’m looking for something a little more nuanced than 5 paragraphs of predictions or a meme. Kudos to anyone who’s researched the issue and can share some literature.

Short & to the point




and this, tho WaPo tends to lean: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the … 34bf6f78f7

Essentially Internet Providers can charge websites on the backend added fees for large caps for data (Netflix, Vimeo, Amazon Prime, Facebook Live). However, think of how fast the technology has advanced the past 10 years since YT. All the new sites & innovations. In addition, Comcast & Verizon can freely push their own sites without charging on the backend, leading to unfair competition. I recall Comcast attempted to create their own model of Netflix called Streampix or something, a horrible disater. And for a while Verizon was aligned with Redbox's streaming service, which I think has since been given up on.


I read that, but it's more informational than an analysis, which is what I'm looking for.  In short, the internet is already functioning the way you described.  Google/Amazon already have a direct link to Comcast and other ISPs, bypassing the internet backbone to provide you a faster connection to their sites.  Wired did a really good article on it:

https://www.wired.com/2014/06/net_neutrality_missing/

I'm still trying to formulate an opinion, and all the doom and gloom pretending the FCC saved the internet under Obama isn't helping.  There was no "net neutrality" (which I've found is really a buzzword and has no actual definition) prior to 2015 and the internet was just fine.  Like I said, Canada lacks a net neutrality law, and they don't have any issues.  Same with the Netherlands.  Capitalism and competition is what forced Verizon and AT&T to start offering unlimited data plans at a fair rate in order to compete with Sprint and T-Mobile.  Portugal is a bad example, because it's Portugal.  I can't think of the last innovation or contribution to come from them since the Renaissance and age of conquistadors. 

I think I'm in favor of net neutrality, but the scare tactics and nonsense populating the dialogue turns me off.  I'd much rather see the feds break up the major ISPs and treat the cable lines like we do the electric and water companies.  But admittedly I don't have enough information to fully justify that stance.

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