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misterID
 Rep: 453 

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misterID wrote:

The state stuff will be far more serious for Trump, imo. Cohen is fucked. He knew all the shady shit they could find before he ran. Hopefully he  completes his term, no President Pence, and ... I don't really care after that.

mitchejw
 Rep: 109 

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mitchejw wrote:

If only Trump and his admin. didn't attack everyone all the time. If only he didn't make the majority of this country, the popular vote, hate his guts with such a passion.

If only he didn't pick fights with other upstanding Americans. If only trump didn't choose to start a war with the FBI and the CIA. If only Trump wasn't such a total loose cannon and a flake. If only he could stay on topic. If only he didn't disrespect every single person that disagreed with him. If only he had accomplished something other than cutting taxes and engaging in macho man bravado.

If only the people who are ambivalent would stand up and stop allowing the majority of this country to be your fucking punching bag.


This whole movement has been based on hate and anger. You're getting it back in spades.

bigbri
 Rep: 324 

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bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

If you look hard enough you will find violations or ethical issues or suspect policy with every Senator, Congressman, President to ever serve.

Of course they can find stuff on Trump, with that budget and team they will find something. But none of it is serious.

Funny they looked so hard and couldn’t find anything on Obama, so your theory is bunk. You find things on criminals.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 327 

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Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

If you look hard enough you will find violations or ethical issues or suspect policy with every Senator, Congressman, President to ever serve.

Of course they can find stuff on Trump, with that budget and team they will find something. But none of it is serious.

Funny they looked so hard and couldn’t find anything on Obama, so your theory is bunk. You find things on criminals.

What did they find on trump?

Obama had some suspect “friends” and had campaign violations. Like I said, dirty money is around all the folks on some level. Look at Tim Gietner or Fast and Furious. Shit happened but they would never discuss on MSNBC or CNN etc.

The mainstream media didn’t even cover the New Mexico compound or the judge that said they were no threat. Amazing we caught this!!  2 people tied to New Mexico compound planned an attack on Grady Hospital.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nati … seC6uXs7L/

misterID
 Rep: 453 

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misterID wrote:

Trump's presidential publicity stunt gone wrong will effect his business and will likely have some tough repercussions.

I will say, they need to concentrate on Russia only, and hand the other stuff off to the states. Manafort was a complete fiasco and complete waste of money seeing Virginia had their own case against him.

bigbri
 Rep: 324 

Re: US Politics Thread

bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

If you look hard enough you will find violations or ethical issues or suspect policy with every Senator, Congressman, President to ever serve.

Of course they can find stuff on Trump, with that budget and team they will find something. But none of it is serious.

Funny they looked so hard and couldn’t find anything on Obama, so your theory is bunk. You find things on criminals.

What did they find on trump?

Obama had some suspect “friends” and had campaign violations. Like I said, dirty money is around all the folks on some level. Look at Tim Gietner or Fast and Furious. Shit happened but they would never discuss on MSNBC or CNN etc.

The mainstream media didn’t even cover the New Mexico compound or the judge that said they were no threat. Amazing we caught this!!  2 people tied to New Mexico compound planned an attack on Grady Hospital.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nati … seC6uXs7L/

What did they find on Trump? You are using past tense as if this is over. Not over. There has been plenty of "evidence" Trump has been or is involved in several crimes, but not yet "proof." There is a difference.

Obama had suspect "friends." That's the best you can do? His friends were suspect. God forbid. You must have been mad when he wore that tan suit too.

Also, the mainstream media didn't even cover the New Mexico compound? Do you actually believe that? Every mainstream outlet carried it online.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 108 

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misterID wrote:

Trump's presidential publicity stunt gone wrong will effect his business and will likely have some tough repercussions.

I will say, they need to concentrate on Russia only, and hand the other stuff off to the states. Manafort was a complete fiasco and complete waste of money seeing Virginia had their own case against him.

Internationally, particularly non-western countries, I think his brand is safe. To people in Kenya or Mongolia, his brand is synonymous with wealth. So I think it’ll be ok there, but in any western country, that brand is fucked.



I’m really irritated they put the flag back up at the White House. So fucking petty and so much disrespect toward a man that did more for this country than 1000 regular citizens ever will.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 108 

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bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Funny they looked so hard and couldn’t find anything on Obama, so your theory is bunk. You find things on criminals.

What did they find on trump?

Obama had some suspect “friends” and had campaign violations. Like I said, dirty money is around all the folks on some level. Look at Tim Gietner or Fast and Furious. Shit happened but they would never discuss on MSNBC or CNN etc.

The mainstream media didn’t even cover the New Mexico compound or the judge that said they were no threat. Amazing we caught this!!  2 people tied to New Mexico compound planned an attack on Grady Hospital.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nati … seC6uXs7L/

What did they find on Trump? You are using past tense as if this is over. Not over. There has been plenty of "evidence" Trump has been or is involved in several crimes, but not yet "proof." There is a difference.

Obama had suspect "friends." That's the best you can do? His friends were suspect. God forbid. You must have been mad when he wore that tan suit too.

Also, the mainstream media didn't even cover the New Mexico compound? Do you actually believe that? Every mainstream outlet carried it online.

Obama didn’t have a special counsel that has clearly gone off the rails. I’m 100% in support of the SC and Mueller. But nothing, I repeat nothing, has been brought up with regards to Trump, his campaign or its associates related to the SC’s mandate. Sure, Manafort broke a bunch of tax laws years before Trump. Yep, Cohen tried to use his access to get paid from corporations.

The best they’ve gotten in 15 months is that maybe, if you stretch the statute, Trump violated a campaign finance law paying off whores who signed NDAs not to talk about a man they fucked, and then cashed the check and talked to the press anyway. That’s what you got. 

So yea, it has become a witch hunt. Let’s find any law that was broken, regardless if its related to Russian interference in the 2016 election. You put the full power of the DoJ to find dirt, I don’t care who you are, they’ll find something. Especially if we’re willing to stretch and interpret statues to do so. “No prosecutor would go after Hillary for mishandling classified intel on a home brew server every intelligence agency said was compromised”. But “Fuck Trump!  Let’s pretend paying off a porn star who wants to get paid for talking about how poorly Trump fucked her is a campaign donation!  This makes perfect sense!”

Trump isn’t Al Capone. Obama sure as fuck wasn’t scandal free, he just had a press that was in love with him. Just as the press is 90% negative towards Trump, they were 90% positive to Obama. And the sad part is despite this and all the importance and self congratulation from the media on how awesome they are, Trump is just as popular if not moreso than Obama at the same point in their presidencies.

Kudos to the establishment Democrats. Sincerely. I thought for sure the Maxine Waters types would have articles of impeachment drafted already. But Pelosi and Schumer are smart enough to realize that would harm them more than it would Trump. Imagine side by side comparisons of Democrats and the media in 98 handwaiving Clinton’s perjury while modern clips showed them screaming Armageddon at Trump.

I just pray they run a moderate candidate with personality in 2020 or we’re going to have 4 more years of Trump.

misterID
 Rep: 453 

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misterID wrote:

^^ This.

And they're going to nominate Kamala Harris.

If John Kasich runs I'll vote for him. I can't vote Harris.

mitchejw
 Rep: 109 

Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:
bigbri wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

What did they find on trump?

Obama had some suspect “friends” and had campaign violations. Like I said, dirty money is around all the folks on some level. Look at Tim Gietner or Fast and Furious. Shit happened but they would never discuss on MSNBC or CNN etc.

The mainstream media didn’t even cover the New Mexico compound or the judge that said they were no threat. Amazing we caught this!!  2 people tied to New Mexico compound planned an attack on Grady Hospital.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/nati … seC6uXs7L/

What did they find on Trump? You are using past tense as if this is over. Not over. There has been plenty of "evidence" Trump has been or is involved in several crimes, but not yet "proof." There is a difference.

Obama had suspect "friends." That's the best you can do? His friends were suspect. God forbid. You must have been mad when he wore that tan suit too.

Also, the mainstream media didn't even cover the New Mexico compound? Do you actually believe that? Every mainstream outlet carried it online.

Obama didn’t have a special counsel that has clearly gone off the rails. I’m 100% in support of the SC and Mueller. But nothing, I repeat nothing, has been brought up with regards to Trump, his campaign or its associates related to the SC’s mandate. Sure, Manafort broke a bunch of tax laws years before Trump. Yep, Cohen tried to use his access to get paid from corporations.

The best they’ve gotten in 15 months is that maybe, if you stretch the statute, Trump violated a campaign finance law paying off whores who signed NDAs not to talk about a man they fucked, and then cashed the check and talked to the press anyway. That’s what you got. 

So yea, it has become a witch hunt. Let’s find any law that was broken, regardless if its related to Russian interference in the 2016 election. You put the full power of the DoJ to find dirt, I don’t care who you are, they’ll find something. Especially if we’re willing to stretch and interpret statues to do so. “No prosecutor would go after Hillary for mishandling classified intel on a home brew server every intelligence agency said was compromised”. But “Fuck Trump!  Let’s pretend paying off a porn star who wants to get paid for talking about how poorly Trump fucked her is a campaign donation!  This makes perfect sense!”

Trump isn’t Al Capone. Obama sure as fuck wasn’t scandal free, he just had a press that was in love with him. Just as the press is 90% negative towards Trump, they were 90% positive to Obama. And the sad part is despite this and all the importance and self congratulation from the media on how awesome they are, Trump is just as popular if not moreso than Obama at the same point in their presidencies.

Kudos to the establishment Democrats. Sincerely. I thought for sure the Maxine Waters types would have articles of impeachment drafted already. But Pelosi and Schumer are smart enough to realize that would harm them more than it would Trump. Imagine side by side comparisons of Democrats and the media in 98 handwaiving Clinton’s perjury while modern clips showed them screaming Armageddon at Trump.

I just pray they run a moderate candidate with personality in 2020 or we’re going to have 4 more years of Trump.

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