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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Sky Dog wrote:

Tracks better on album TWAT, IRS and Prostitute. bucket

Wagszilla
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Wagszilla wrote:
elevendayempire wrote:

Couldn't you just plop the vocals from the Rock Band multitracks onto the instrumental demo of Sorry? Sure, it'd be a Frankenstein's monster and not a "real" demo, but needs must...

It wouldn't work.

The guitar would drown out the main chorus.

I really wish "Sorry" had an alternative cut with better lyrics ala "Don't Cry (alt)".

PaSnow
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

PaSnow wrote:

'Sorry''s kinda sappy. I don't think the lyrics are much of an issue. Tempo during verses & chorus probably needs to be sped up a bit. Bridge/Pre-chorus is the best part.

Wagszilla
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Wagszilla wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

'Sorry''s kinda sappy. I don't think the lyrics are much of an issue.

Huh? How does the first statement not contradict the second?

The "I'll kick your ass" line is the worst thing Axl's ever written.

The chorus lyrics are solid.

He made a powerful song with Civil War level potential about personal vendetta.

Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Sky Dog wrote:

I like Sorry but don’t like the ass kick part either...drops to the level of get in the ring and shotgun blues. axl

Axl is better than that.

PaSnow
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

PaSnow wrote:
Wagszilla wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

'Sorry''s kinda sappy. I don't think the lyrics are much of an issue.

Huh? How does the first statement not contradict the second?

The "I'll kick your ass" line is the worst thing Axl's ever written.

The chorus lyrics are solid.

He made a powerful song with Civil War level potential about personal vendetta.

1:38-1:56 & 4:15-4:35

and its just too slow. Sorry I prolly haven't listened to it in about 10 years so I don't know all the lines, yeah, the I'll Kick Your Ass In is dumb, but the song sounds like music for a ballad with Jah Rule & JLo or something.

A Private Eye
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Sorry is real rocks and diamonds for me.

Some very cheesy moments but some real zingers as well. ‘It’s harder to live with the truth about you, than to live with the lies about me’ is absolute gold.

James
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

James wrote:
Wagszilla wrote:

I really wish "Sorry" had an alternative cut with better lyrics ala "Don't Cry (alt)".

This is why I will never bother listening to a fan edit of including the vocals on the demo.

The instrumental has a chilling doom and gloom, existential vibe to it.

It deserved so much more than being a song aimed at Slash and other "enemies".

I wish Bucket or someone had stood up to him and said that the lyrics aren't acceptable.

Having said that....

It’s harder to live with the truth about you, than to live with the lies about me’ is absolute gold.

One of his best lines ever.

James
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

James wrote:
Sky Dog wrote:

Tracks better on album TWAT, IRS and Prostitute. bucket


The president of the Tommy Stinson fan club prefers album versions? tongue

Wagszilla
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Re: Tracks on the album better than the Rough Mixes

Wagszilla wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

and its just too slow. Sorry I prolly haven't listened to it in about 10 years so I don't know all the lines, yeah, the I'll Kick Your Ass In is dumb, but the song sounds like music for a ballad with Jah Rule & JLo or something.

I get what you're saying there.

In my perfect world it gets a heavy version like the demo and and more uptempo pop version so it's more singable.

James wrote:

The instrumental has a chilling doom and gloom, existential vibe to it.

It deserved so much more than being a song aimed at Slash and other "enemies".

Absolutely.

imo, the song is supposed to an anti-war, powers-that-be song, but of course Axl can't help himself doing the Blacklist whinge first.

James wrote:

I wish Bucket or someone had stood up to him and said that the lyrics aren't acceptable.

He probably had the same experience everyone else did. Release an album? Write lyrics? Do/re-do vocals?

YOU HAVE INCURRED MY GINGER WRATH.

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