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Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
If Axl actually has some sort of mental problem (I'd wager a kidney that he does) then it's quite possible Azoff realizes his behavior is a symptom of that illness and is patient with him. I'd bet this happens more often than we realize with celebs. They are often off in their own little worlds.
Agre4ed. But why would Azoff hang on to Axl? Is GnR CD really that marketable?? Would a CD tour really be that sucessful?? Has he heard stuff in the vaults which blow what was released on CD away & knows that can be a big album.. Or, is he possibly envisioning a reunion down the line?! Why keep this band as a client?! The name has value, but does the current album or lineup?! I would think a power-broker like him could easily drop him and still have plenty of big clients to work with. It'd be like Drew Rosenhaus working with Michael Vick or PacMan Jones. Better off dropping them, wouldn't be a huge loss, why tarnish your name or put up with the BS.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
The more this whole thing goes on, the more comparison I draw between Axl Rose and Elvis Presley.
Other then the fact that Elvis was out touring constantly and consistantly released albums, everything else is really similar.
That's a very good analogy.
Although in this case one of the guys is bascially dead, even though people are still convinced they spot him from time to time.
In comparison the other guy is a household name, still sells shitload of records and has legions of dedicated fans.
Oh yeah the first guy I was referring to is Axl and the second guy is Elvis. 
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
Acquiesce wrote:If Axl actually has some sort of mental problem (I'd wager a kidney that he does) then it's quite possible Azoff realizes his behavior is a symptom of that illness and is patient with him. I'd bet this happens more often than we realize with celebs. They are often off in their own little worlds.
Agre4ed. But why would Azoff hang on to Axl? Is GnR CD really that marketable?? Would a CD tour really be that sucessful?? Has he heard stuff in the vaults which blow what was released on CD away & knows that can be a big album.. Or, is he possibly envisioning a reunion down the line?! Why keep this band as a client?! The name has value, but does the current album or lineup?! I would think a power-broker like him could easily drop him and still have plenty of big clients to work with. It'd be like Drew Rosenhaus working with Michael Vick or PacMan Jones. Better off dropping them, wouldn't be a huge loss, why tarnish your name or put up with the BS.
A GnR reunion is that marketable. This has nothing to do with the joke that GnR is now and has everything to do with the ONLY place where the big money is involved. Nobody can save new GnR. Not Azoff, not Axl, not BH, not DJ, etc. There is no interest in this band at all regardless of who is in it.
The only interest is in the reunion and when or if it's going to happen. Maybe a few board nutcases care about the other stuff, but there aren't enough of them to make a difference. Even if Axl had an album of the 13 greatest songs written in the history of the world ready to be released today, there aren't enough people interested in hearing it. CD had to be a success and it wasn't. If the album people were waiting 15 years for flopped, there's no way another album that nobody's waiting for has any chance of succeeding. It is really that simple.
Azoff knows all of this. He's not an idiot. In his mind, he has to be hanging on for the reunion. The only other possiblity is that he knows Axl isn't going to be doing anything anytime soon, so he can collect free money for doing nothing. That's not a bad gig if you can get it. Either way, he has no interest in this band doing anything.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
Exactly. The were SO MANY "hangers on" in Elvis' life. And many wrote "tell all" books to cash in on him either right when he was on deaths door or countless times since then.
The same will happen for Axl which is terrible. One major difference is that with Elvis, he had someone who truly cared about his legacy (Priscilla). After he passed, she cut EVERYONE off and rebuilt his legacy.
Axl doesn't have that and I feel bad for him.
Axl has Paxcow. She cares.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
Even if Axl had an album of the 13 greatest songs written in the history of the world ready to be released today, there aren't enough people interested in hearing it.
You're taking a giant leap there. IF he has a killer second album waiting in the wings and actually cares enough to actually do something with it, it can definitely be a success. The media loves this guy regardless of what 'out ta get me' myths are floating around out there. When you have the media on your side, its the first step to a major comeback. He just has to follow through with it. They pitch him softballs moving at a snail's pace, he just has to step up to the plate and hit the home run.
That's another reason he needs to trim some of the dead weight from his sycophant fan club. Would enable him to wake up and smell the coffee before its too late.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
Who wants anything to do with an Axl Rose album at this point? Even if he had that album, is he going to promote it? Is he going to tour? Will he show up for the tour?
I don't think it's a leap. Axl has shown that he won't even support the mythical album that was supposed to define his GnR.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
Who wants anything to do with an Axl Rose album at this point? Even if he had that album, is he going to promote it? Is he going to tour? Will he show up for the tour?
I don't think it's a leap. Axl has shown that he won't even support the mythical album that was supposed to define his GnR.
Well like I said, the approach has to be different or the results will be the same. Releasing an album and posting about Slash isn't gonna get the job done. People interested in Slash listen to old GNR, VR, and other shit. He's barking up the wrong tree whining about Slash. If he'll ever join the 21st century he can have a good second act to his career.
You cant just boldly state that if he has good material no one is gonna care about it. If its good and he focuses on it, he's back. Not at the top of the mountain of course, but that shouldn't even be a goal.
Re: Axl's fired and re hired Azoff 3 times in last 5 weeks!
The more this whole thing goes on, the more comparison I draw between Axl Rose and Elvis Presley.
Other then the fact that Elvis was out touring constantly and consistantly released albums, everything else is really similar.
Personally I always viewed Michael Jackson as more the current day Elvis. Overly eccentric, was the biggest pop-star, adored by millions, well past his prime but people will still pay to see him. If he really is bankrupt, or ever gets there, he should do Vegas. He'd make a killing, could sell out a 1,000 seat casino theater nightly with a $100/ticket show.
As for Axl, I'd compare him more to Syd Barrett. A guy who just went crazy & became a hermit of sorts.
