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PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
misterID wrote:

Fuck Comey. Whiney, disingenuous, arrogant, backstabbing fuck face. Talk shit about Trump all he wants, he fucked the election.

The impression I got was he didn't like the Clintons very much, or didn't want Hillary to win (for a similar reason, either didn't like them politically or knew alot about the dirt on them behind the scenes. Plus I think he 'leans' GOP). So I think he sorta did what he could to affect her chances, probably hoping to keep it a tight race, maybe help some down ticket seats. Like most people he probably didn't think Trump had much shot at winning.

Then when Trump won he was shocked, but happy his GOP won the race. Then as the intel worked its course, and Comey found out the details & evidence about the crimes & investigations the Trump team was under, he in a conniving way tried to lay low, and distance himself from Trump & the mess he created.

Now, I think he tries to give the impression of non-partisan, even to a liberal leaning extent (no tie), I think he knows he fucked up. I'm sure he was honest about the meetings he had, and anyone should certainly have a problem with Trumps ways of asking for "loyalty" and "let this go" from the head of the FBI on an investigation into his associates??  They are deeply troubling & disturbing imho. There is no doubt in my mind Trump has discussed and been talked out of on numerous occasions firing Mueller.

Mark my words, one of two things will happen, Mueller will be fired, OR charges will be brought onto many more of the Trump team (Kushners). I think something really, really stupid probably went down, like major financial dealings or Trump hotel business transactions that the FBI saw and were like 'WTF?  This is a joke right?'

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

Bad day for Sean Hannity. 16 I'd imagine it will be worse once reporters find out WHY he was using a clean up guy as his attorney.

Another shit day for Cohen, who I'm guessing will be indicted in the next few months or less after the FBI raided his residences and business.

Crap day for Trump who is watching the walls close in. 5

Bad day for Fox News, but I doubt they give a shit.

Remember when they said it would be wrapped up by the end of 2017? Remember all the Republicans who claimed nothing would come of this? Trump wasn't under investigation? Nobody was making deals? Flynn wasn't flipping? Stormy Daniels/Cohen payments wouldn't amount to anything?

The same people are still saying nothing is happening, and claiming zero evidence. This is what I'd call delusional.

This thing is heating up bigtime. Cohen's warrant was a pivotal moment in all of the Trump drama, which he has now on two fronts that we're aware of.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

This is a kangaroo court. This is not what our legal system is supposed to be. A Fucking circus. Very embarrassing state of affairs. Why the attorney for the porn star and the porn star were there is beyond me. Also why did Hannity’s name have to be disclosed? Seems like abuse of power.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

Yeah I feel it was a worse day for Hannity/Fox News than Trump. However. I think Muellers just effing with them at this point. Considering the fact Trumps team interacted with the Russians, Trump asked the head of the FBI to drop the charges, and the Kushners took out a  billion dollar loan to pay for their manhatten property, i think Stormy Daniels and the pee tape are the least of the investigations end goals. They're just smearing him before they bring him down. They know the ending to this.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

Yeah I feel it was a worse day for Hannity/Fox News than Trump. However. I think Muellers just effing with them at this point. Considering the fact Trumps team interacted with the Russians, Trump asked the head of the FBI to drop the charges, and the Kushners took out a  billion dollar loan to pay for their manhatten property, i think Stormy Daniels and the pee tape are the least of the investigations end goals. They're just smearing him before they bring him down. They know the ending to this.

Public opinion is Siding with trump more and more that this investigation is bullshit. Focus on Russia and get on with it. These ploys to embarrass is not adhering to the spirit of the law.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

Ummmmm, if it was big shit wouldn’t we know by now?? They are trying to break someone to spill the beans because they don’t know for sure.

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

This is a kangaroo court. This is not what our legal system is supposed to be. A Fucking circus. Very embarrassing state of affairs. Why the attorney for the porn star and the porn star were there is beyond me. Also why did Hannity’s name have to be disclosed? Seems like abuse of power.

The warrant was signed off by a Trump appointee.

slcpunk
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Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

This has very little to do with Stormy Daniels anymore imo. The warrant was issued because they clearly feared evidence would be destroyed if they gave notice. Cohen has his own set of problems now, probably financial issues and whatever other illegal stuff comes up from this. While this isn't part of the Mueller investigation I can easily see Cohen becoming part of it via a plea deal. We'll have to see if he gets charged and how serious those charges are.

This is an entirely new set of legal problems for Trump. Mueller on the other hand is tightening the noose with his investigation...

mitchejw
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Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

I dunno dude, I'm just shocked he's this bad. I mean George W was bad, but I think it isn't even close.

We'll see. I'll give you this, if it is only Stormy Daniels and petty campaign stuff, I'll be pissed. I can't see this not being big tho.

Ummmmm, if it was big shit wouldn’t we know by now?? They are trying to break someone to spill the beans because they don’t know for sure.

I can’t believe the Trump supporters are still saying this....

Have you ever been apart of an investigation where you knew integral facts about a case BEFORE a judge or jury?

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