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There are so many clues and metaphors over the whole last series as to what was coming and the final scene plays it perfectly - as David Chase has repeatedly said "its all there" - you've just got to be watching closely.

That's a fair point....BUT.....Chase goes back and forth on what "all there" really is.

This is why it feels the audience was punk'd. If he wants Tony dead....then fucking say that....stick to it....own it...and move on. I don't know his latest feelings on the series but he waffled on this when Gandolfini was still alive. It doesn't seem like much of a vision when the creator himself waffles on it.

I can't for the life of me understand how a fan who'd watched the entire series would want to be spoonfed the ending

I didn't need it spoonfed. I just think the caliber of this series deserved something else...and no I didn't need to see a money shot at the end.

I didn't watch this show when it was on primetime. I got into it two years after it ended and marathoned it. People like me and Flagg who saw the storyline play out in huge chunks instead of over 8 years may have a different perspective on the whole thing.

Neemo
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Neemo wrote:

Im in season 4 now...episode 2 or 3

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I dove into season six a couple days ago. I have a greater appreciation for Phil. I love Johnny Sack but Tony needed Phil to help keep him in check earlier in the series. On the other hand, the rise of Phil and how the NY/NJ issues are handled as the series winds down shows us that Tony's crew isn't nearly as powerful as we were led to believe earlier in the series.

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johndivney wrote:

Happy accident of one of the masterstrokes that was setting it in NJ instead of NY ^
Nj always painted as step child/poor relation. Phil leotardo plot fruition of that.

monkeychow
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monkeychow wrote:

This is probably one of my favourite shows ever. Great story great actors.

I always felt though that it kinda lost its way a little bit by the end - although the writing overall is some of the best ever on TV - I felt it got a bit patchy here and there.

Like Tony's gambling problem felt like it came out of nowhere, its realistic he may have had an issue with gambling, but it seemed to suddenly develop with no clue in previous seasons. The artsy dream sequences were kinda a cool twist to get in tony's head but I felt it went a bit far when whole episodes devoted to surrealism. There's also a couple of smaller side story threads that seem to start then don't develop into anything which is kinda weird.

Love the show though.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

One of the best TV series ever. It was perfect. HBO got this all started with that show.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

Never watched.

Should I binge it?

monkeychow
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monkeychow wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Never watched.

Should I binge it?


If you like Gangster stuff - like Goodfellas, Casino that type of thing I would absolutely give it a shot.

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