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otto
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

otto wrote:

I'm interested in hearing the rationale behind the alternate titles.
Especially for songs that we haven't heard yet.

Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

AtariLegend wrote:
otto wrote:

I'm interested in hearing the rationale behind the alternate titles.
Especially for songs that we haven't heard yet.

There isn't any.

I mean we literally have 2 threads talking about how Seven and The General came about. They're aren't from these sessions and a few of these alt titles are for different tracks listed on the same cds. You not going to give a track 3 different names on 1 disc.

Pacha
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

Pacha wrote:

So, this list was made with true information or pure imagination?

otto
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

otto wrote:
Pacha wrote:

So, this list was made with true information or pure imagination?

Pure imagination

misterID
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

misterID wrote:

sp1at
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

sp1at wrote:

I think, going on previous interviews, there were 36 songs recorded during the CD sessions, and dozens incomplete.

sp1at
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

sp1at wrote:
otto wrote:

I'm interested in hearing the rationale behind the alternate titles.
Especially for songs that we haven't heard yet.

It might be that different lyrics were attached to songs at different points in time.

The start of an Axl interview from 2012

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Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY

The Guns N' Roses singer says new music will come sooner than the band's long-awaited 'Chinese Democracy' did.

Few front men in rock 'n' roll have been as controversial, sensationalized or polarizing as Axl Rose, who suffered sexual and physical abuse in childhood, led Guns N' Roses to global fame starting with 1987's Appetite for Destruction and engineered its collapse a few years later. He spent years in seclusion hiring and firing new players while tinkering endlessly on 2008's Chinese Democracy. His current GNR lineup takes the stage Wednesday night in the first of a dozen shows at The Joint in Las Vegas' Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. In a rare interview, the press-leery Rose shares his thoughts on Guns now and then, old wounds and the music industry.

New music: "All the guys are writing, and we recorded a lot of songs over the years. We'll figure out what we feel best about. Chinese was done in piecemeal with one person here and one there at different times. Appetite for Destruction was the only thing written with lyrics and melody fitting the guitar parts at the same time. After that, I got a barrage of guitar songs that I was supposed to put words to, and I don't know if that was the best thing for Guns. I do want to lean more toward lyrics and melody."

The long wait for Chinese Democracy: "I had to deal with so many other things that don't have to do with music but have to do with the industry. There's such a loss of time. It was more about survival. There wasn't anyone to work with or trust. Someone would come in to help produce and the reality was they just wanted to mix it and get it out the door. They had a different agenda. (The next album) will come out sooner."

Songwriting slump: Supermodel girlfriend Stephanie Seymour and original Guns guitarist Slash and bassist Duff McKagan "did more damage to my ability as a writer. To those three, it was all crap. It beat me down so much. At the time of the (Use Your Illusion) tours, Slash and Duff said, 'You're an idiot, you're a loser.' I didn't write for years. I felt I was hindered for a very long time. I was also trying to figure out what I wanted to say, when it's right to be venting and when you're digging a bigger hole. Lyrics on Chinese took a long time."

Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

AtariLegend wrote:

Just a reminder that the topic starter is a forum troll who's posting things under multiple accounts pretending to know things while spreading misinformation.

50% of the info in the first post is nonsense.

sp1at
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Re: Every Chinese Democracy Song (1993 - 2008)

sp1at wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:

Just a reminder that the topic starter is a forum troll who's posting things under multiple accounts pretending to know things while spreading misinformation.

50% of the info in the first post is nonsense.

Yes, for example, Shacklers Revenge probably existed before 1999

From Brain in 2009

“Shackler’s” was a song that Bucket and I wrote a long time ago, just jamming. Axl asked if anybody had any songs or grooves, so we brought that in. It was a riff that we’d been jamming on since the Praxis days with Bill and Bootsy and Bernie. Axl loved it and put some lyrics to it, and it became “Shackler’s.” That one might have more of a swing because it came more from me.

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