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Gunslinger
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Gunslinger wrote:

Gaza Rocket Rocks Bush's Israel Trip

Wednesday, May. 14, 2008 By TIM MCGIRK/JERUSALEM  Israeli medics evacuate a wounded woman from the scene of a rocket attack in the southern city of Ashkelon May 14, 2008.
Amir Cohen / ReutersArticle ToolsPrintEmailReprintsSphereAddThisRSSYahoo! Buzz  U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was discussing terrorism with Ehud Barak, Wednesday, when an aide rushed in to inform the Israeli Defense Minister that Palestinian militants had just fired a rocket from Gaza into a woman's clinic located in a large shopping mall in the southern Israeli port city of Ashkelon. "Let's go down there together," Barak told Rice, according to an Israeli source. "I want you to see with your own eyes what we're going through."

Rice, who is accompanying President George W. Bush on a visit to celebrate Israel's 60 years of independence, declined. Routine diplomatic security would preclude a top U.S. official being placed in harm's way, and the presence of the Secretary of State within in range of their Katyusha rockets could tempt the militants to fire again.

Rescue workers who crawled through the debris of the second-story clinic reported that 15 Israelis had been wounded in the attack, three of them seriously. Earlier on Wednesday, Israeli forces killed four suspected Palestinian militants in Gaza. But the militants' use of the medium-range Katyusha rocket was not an act of revenge as much as a warning to Olmert.

Abu Abir, a spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees, which claimed credit for the attack, said: "This is a message to Israel that if it continues its escalation and postponement of cease-fire, the Zionist residents in southern Palestine will live under life-threatening responsibility." He was referring to Egypt's efforts to broker a truce between Hamas and the Israelis, in which Gaza militants would stop firing rockets and the Israelis would stop targeting militant leaders for assassination. Insiders told TIME that the Egyptian truce deal fell apart after Israel had added a demand for the release of captive Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit before it would agree to the ceasefire. Hamas says it is prepared to release Shalit, but only after the truce is in force, and in exchange for Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

One Hamas official also claimed that the Ashkelon rocket has been a message to the visiting U.S. president not to overlook Palestinian demands. "He is only looking at the Israeli side, but there's a Palestinian face on the other side of the coin," the official told TIME.

Even before Wednesday's rocket attack, Bush, in meetings with Olmert and his top cabinet officials, had pledged U.S. solidarity in fighting Palestinian terrorists, as well as in confronting Iran. "We stand with democratic nations against terrorism," he said. "We stand with Israel against the Iranian nuclear threat."

The rocket attack appears to be an attempt by militants to underline their centrality to the political equation in the Palestinian territories. And it will undoubtedly lead to an escalation of violence. The Israelis will likely show restraint as long as Bush and other V.I.P. guests are here for Israel's anniversary celebrations, but once the party is over, Israel is likely to strike hard in Gaza once again.

'”With reporting by Jamil Hamad/Bethlehem and Aaron J. Klein/Jerusalem

James
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James wrote:

I don't have a clue as to what the solution to the Israeli/Palestinian problem should be. Its been going on forever, and the best and worst US presidents couldn't do anything.

supaplex
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supaplex wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

I don't have a clue as to what the solution to the Israeli/Palestinian problem should be. Its been going on forever, and the best and worst US presidents couldn't do anything.

i'm probably asking for it with this but, here goes:

the solution is: leave them the fuck alone and stop interfering! if they want to kill each other, fine.

as you said james, no one could do anything and no solution was found. they have to run out of bullets/people at some point.

polluxlm
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polluxlm wrote:

The middle eastern jew/arab is probably one of the biggest illusions in history.

The official story is that the 'allied' powers in WW2 'gave' the jews 'their land' back as a means to get rid of guilt because the jews had suffered so much. Total bullshit of course, considering the 'allied' powers knew about he holocaust for years, yet did nothing about it until public opinion demanded it, several years after the war.

For the last 60 years the arabs in Israel have been treated like the jews themselves in Hitler Germany, yet the world still goes "I don't get it, why are they fighting?". It's pretty simple; your land is taken with force, they give you a tenth of that back and treat you like an animal, you get pissed and fight back.

Israel should've been given the same treatment as Iraq, Cuba, North Korea and Iran. No wonder Canada put them on a terrorist list.

Edit: My country is one of the biggest Israel critics around, yet we supply the weapons they use to kill 'our' freedom fighters. That's the core of the situation right there; hypocrisy, religion and greed.

James
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James wrote:

I don't think many doubt there were mistakes made back then. That was then, this is now....

So what does the world do? Do you advocate an invasion of Israel to take back most of the land and give it back to the Palestinians? You do realize that would be nuclear war? Lets say for the sake of argument that it doesn't lead to nuclear war and the US(and/or our allies) disable their nukes and quickly destroy their military making Israel surrender.

That is a MASSIVE shift in the balance of power in the Middle East. The region would NEVER be stable. Not that its stable now, but pushing Israel back is the absolute worst thing that could happen in the region.

Where do you send them? Auschwitz version 2?

tranquill
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tranquill wrote:

Israeli analyst suggests turning nuclear Iran against Egypt.
He argues that Shia dominance is prefereable to the Sunni's.
See this: http://samsonblinded.org/blog/use-iran- … -egypt.htm

James
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James wrote:

Turning arabs against each other??

That should be easy. Why didn't they think of that years ago?

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