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Shacklermyrye
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Re: Bad Apples was meant to be on Live Era

Was looking in to the archive to check something unrelated and stumbled on this so thought I'd mention it as I'm not sure it's common knowledge or not.

Bad Apples was intended to be on Live Era and a mixed version by Andy Wallace likely exists

Wallace's management company confirms that the studio veteran is booked for the sessions from July 12 through to the 29th.
https://web.archive.org/web/20010629194 … _news.html The following post suggests his work however was not complete by the 29th.

    August 8th 1999
The Guns N' Roses Live Album Info

Slash says the album will have to meet the approval of the GN'R members before it's ready for production. He is working on mixing it, and sometimes Duff will come in and help out. Every one of the band members is involved in some way. Slash says that 8 songs are done. The artwork is already in progress and will be done by the band. The album will be made up of songs from different concerts. There will be some GN'R standbys like "Welcome to the Jungle", but there will also be rare cuts like "Bad Apples". "November Rain" and "Estranged" are both included. Actually, Slash said there was way too much material for one CD, so they are constantly working to size down the tracks to be included. Still no date, but Slash says they are half done, and 24 songs are in mid-mix. So obviously, the band has got a ways to go to compressing this down to the cd-size 13-15. Slash will be going very briefly to New York to master this Guns album.
Source: GN'R mailinglist
https://web.archive.org/web/20010702103 … news5.html

A rare live version of the song "Bad Apples," originally thought to be on record, did not make the final cut, but at least one other track, "Coma," is expected to surface as an overseas b-side in the future. https://web.archive.org/web/20010707161 … tory1.html

As you may recall Coma was eventually released as a bonus track in Japan, but also made available as a free download through KNACs site.
There are 22 songs on the album, 23 if you count Coma, the 24th has to be Bad Apples. So any of you have this?

The following is Duff basically admitting that there are overdubs, I stumbled on this a few years ago and its the closest I have seen any of them come to admitting it.

This was posted on Duff McKagan's Message Board:

Hey dudes! Yes, the live album is offically released on the 30th November here in the US. I did work quite a bit on it. It was great becasue I got to meet all the guys again. Slash was responsible for most of the work on the album. He and Axl worked the hardest. Stevie, Izzy and the others were all involved in one way or another. A lot of people who habe heard the Live Era sampler are complaining that it sound too overproduced with extra sound added. Hmm. It is true that we added extra sound to make the songs sound better on record. But I would not call it 'overproduced'. It has ended up with a very smooth, clean sound even to Axl's vocals but we were just trying to make the album as good as we could. That is why it doesn't actually say what shows the songs come from on the album. Loads of bands do it. Checkout Aerosmith's 'A Little South of Sanity', Cheap Trick's 'Live At Budokan' or any Kiss live album and they have all been tampered with. Otherwise, it would sound like a bootleg.

Se ya, November 30th, in your living room.

Source: Duff McKagan's Official Website
http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52838/nov29_ … tory4.html

Izzyjim
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Re: Bad Apples was meant to be on Live Era

Izzyjim wrote:

So it wasn't just Axl rerecording vocals...

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