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Re: Mustache
@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song
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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.
Oh well, that would make sense. I noticed Brain said to me that Seven has Ben Hur in it, so it would fit in. We'll maybe never know
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Mustache
Shacklermyrye wrote:@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song
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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.
Oh well, that would make sense. I noticed Brain said to me that Seven has Ben Hur in it, so it would fit in. We'll maybe never know
But that's Circus Maximus which was Ides of March.
Per Chinese Whispers
Q: [...] I am very excited about Seven. Can you tell us anything about this song? Is it a rocker?
A: ITS AN TIMELESS BALLAD WITH A BLOW YOUR FACE OFF CHORUS AND A SUCK YOUR BALL SACK BRIDGE!!!!! (Brain Mantia, Appetite for Discussion, Aug. 18, 2010)
Per your old site
Ides Of March
was a working title of one of the songs that came from a loop name that Dizzy came up with I think they kept the name but it's been years so I'm sure everything has changed by now.
https://youtu.be/Kw-jSyy863U?si=APNFj5AuuS0kP5Le
In the forum chats Axl confirmed Ides Of March and Seven separately as songs
A: Ides Of March, Oklahoma, Atlas Shrugged, Oh My God, Silkworms , Down By The Ocean (Izzy), Leave Me Alone, Seven , The General , Thyme , Quick Song , Zodiac Most all titles subject to change w/out warning and r considered working titles. (Axl Rose, chinesedemocracy.com, Dec. 2008)
Thoughts ?
- AgesOfTheIce
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Re: Mustache
Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.
- Shacklermyrye
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Re: Mustache
Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.
Yeah just a theory
- Shacklermyrye
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Re: Mustache
Shacklermyrye wrote:@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song
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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.
Oh well, that would make sense. I noticed Brain said to me that Seven has Ben Hur in it, so it would fit in. We'll maybe never know
Brain also said this about it years later...
Extrakd [Steve Freeman] and Mirv [Marc Haggard] and I, when I wasn’t doing Guns stuff, we’d just jam in my living room type of thing. You know, we had, like, a ProTools setup and we were jamming, and we were trying to come up with songs for Guns. We were writing all these crazy songs to try to turn in and these were coming from, like, you know, Extrakd is an old school dj type – he’s a bass player, but he loves old school break beats and, you know, cratedigger type of guy – and so this shit we were putting together was crazy. You know, we were just kind of going like, “Okay, what samples should we find for Axl?” Like, “Well, he’s kind of like Julius Caesar”, so we were sampling Julius Caesar, looking for albums, you know, and old school crazy shit. And I think we sampled, like, Ben Hur and chopped it up and cut it up, and that became a jam called “Seven” – I think we called it “Seven”. And I remember bringing that to the studio to have – I think Roy Thomas Baker was producing at that point and, you know, we’d be playing the stuff and he’d be in. Brain Appetite for Distortion, March 17, 2019
Whilst obviously this is a different song to Mustache it supports the notion that members bringing songs in could direct what a song or idea was about, not just Axl.
I doubt Axl would know about that French drummer but I can believe Brain would. However all of that is a moot point as its just an isolated claim from a Youtube commentor with no supporting info from anywhere else.
Re: Mustache
AgesOfTheIce wrote:Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.
Unless Axl wrote multiple songs based on Ancient Rome it seems to be a good theory.
You might be right, but 2 things;
Remember how we thought Me and My Elvis was Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul (which was renamed Monsters?) Well clearly it wasn't. Just 2 different tracks that had the words Elvis in the title. Unless it turns out Monsters isn't Soul Monster - which again would further prove the point anyway.
Also the track was supposedly called Ides of March in 98 on conception. I suppose they could have renamed it Circus Maximus in 2000 then changed the back in the early 00s to Ides again, but still... (see chinese whispers].
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Mustache
polluxlm wrote:AgesOfTheIce wrote:Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.
Unless Axl wrote multiple songs based on Ancient Rome it seems to be a good theory.
You might be right, but 2 things;
Remember how we thought Me and My Elvis was Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul (which was renamed Monsters?) Well clearly it wasn't. Just 2 different tracks that had the words Elvis in the title. Unless it turns out Monsters isn't Soul Monster - which again would further prove the point anyway.
Also the track was supposedly called Ides of March in 98 on conception. I suppose they could have renamed it Circus Maximus in 2000 then changed the back in the early 00s to Ides again, but still... (see chinese whispers].
The definition of the word Monstrosity which appears on the cd2 tracklist is Monster.
The track Soul appears on the cd2 email track list too.
- Bill Brasky
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Re: Mustache
Circus Maximus has never been confirmed to be connected to Ides Of March and should not be postulated as such. It's just a theory.
Until any song is officially released is it ever truly confirmed ?
