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James
 Rep: 664 

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

James wrote:

Montgomery Country, MD Council Set To Pass Law

To Allow Male Use Of Female Restrooms

Yes, it's true. Males who self-identify themselves as females will have open access to women's and girls' public restrooms, locker rooms and showers if the Montgomery County Council doesn't hear from you BEFORE Nov. 13th

"That's nuts," you say. Not to the Montgomery County, Maryland Council, which is poised to pass the Non-discrimination Gender Identity Bill (Bill 23-07) into law on November 13, 2007. The bill seeks to augment Maryland's anti-discrimination law which currently does not include "transgender" as a protected class.

While Bill 23-07 prohibits discrimination in housing and employment against those with gender identity problems, it also adds public accommodations, including restrooms, shower rooms, locker rooms and dressing rooms in schools, health clubs, public swimming pools, clothing stores and other such public areas. This new entitlement describes "gender identity [as meaning] an individual's actual or perceived gender.." This change would permit a biological male, who only has expressed a female self- image, to invade the most private facilities used by girls and women.

For example, the bill would allow a male teacher or male student to use school restrooms if he thinks he is female. Same with McDonald's, Chucky Cheese, etc. Some would call Bill 23-07 an invitation to voyeurism or worse. Women's privacy rights are most at risk because the overwhelming number of "gender benders" are male.

The Montgomery County Council has voiced callousness and arrogance to the concerns of parents who object. Council member George Leventhal emailed one such mother of a 10-year-old with this opinion: "I cannot absolutely put to rest your concern that girls might find themselves in a locker room or dressing room in the presence of a person who expresses or asserts herself as a woman but who still has male genitals, but based on my own sense of the prevalence of that condition in the population, I think the likelihood of that occurring is remote."

Council member Leventhal's opinion that we should not worry if a child or woman comes face to face with a nude male stranger (who merely has expressed he feels he is a woman) seems nothing short of condescending. Does he not see that the door is open beyond embarrassment to sexual assault? By allowing any male in a woman's bathroom because anyone questioning his presence can be labeled as a discriminator against cross-dressers, opens up serious safety issues.

The Council is trying to keep this cross-dressing bill out of the public eye. Dr. Ruth Jacobs of CRC, an infectious disease specialist, testified against the bill at the Council's October 2 meeting. She informed the Council that the American Psychiatric Association recognizes Gender Identity Disorder as a mental illness. A former transgender from Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX) also testified at the hearing against the bill. Grace Harley lived as a man for over 10 years before seeking help to overcome her gender identity disorder and now lives as the female she was born to be. Transgenderism is a mental illness treatable by therapy. The correct response to requests by cross-dressers for access to women's public facilities is full access to mental health services. Otherwise, we are feeding into their mental illness and supporting their disordered behavior.

Just who is the Council trying to protect? Certainly not the modesty or safety of its female population, including our daughters and teens. The Council has failed to add language to Bill 23-07 explicitly stating that it does not entitle male cross-dressers, transvestites, or transgenders entry into women's shower rooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms at schools or stores, health clubs, public swimming pools, and any other public place.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

James wrote:

Thank God our morals continue heading in Mayberry territory.......

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

What they should do is make a separate locker room all together, this is insane.   We had a man in our company who was going to get a sex change op and he was crying that he couldn't use the girls restroom and was in there a few times so they put in a unisex bathroom but he still wanted to be in the girls bathroom.   I don't believe in it, if he has a dick then he belongs in the mensroom or a special place for them.

-Jack-
 Rep: 39 

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

-Jack- wrote:

You guys are just JERKS.

...you don't know how hard it is for me. 16

Lol

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

-Jack- wrote:

You guys are just JERKS.

...you don't know how hard it is for me. 16

Lol

Did you say the first line in your best gay flamboyant voice 14

Backslash
 Rep: 80 

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

Backslash wrote:

I've always thought the gender/orientation washroom issue would become a serious concern.  It's taken a long time.  I'm always weary of locker rooms and things because you could always be checked out and stuff.  Back to the bathroom thing, two guys could go in there and get busy if they wanted; whereas if a straight couple wanted to, it would be a lot harder to do.  Unisex bathrooms just shags stuff up worse.  I'm an advocate of to each their own, but the bathroom thing is a point of concern.  People generally treat the bathroom as a haven from sexual advances.  But you never know what to expect anymore.

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

i personally wuld enjoy getting to use the ladies room smile   I think there should be a Men's Room and then a Women's and Bob room.

Axl S
 Rep: 112 

Re: VA Law To Allow Men In Women's Bath, Locker Rooms

Axl S wrote:
-Jack- wrote:

You guys are just JERKS.

...you don't know how hard it is for me. 16

Lol

There's so many innuendos in your post:haha:

On a side note I gotta agree with DTJ, either make them use the men's toilets or give them their own.

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