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Re: And Here ... We ... Go.
buzzsaw wrote:Axl's songs are some of my all time favorites, but they are what they are...pansy songs saved by some good to amazing guitar work.
I do agree that Axl's lyrics are pretty wimpy on a lot of the epics/ballads, but his VOICE is what separates him from the EMO crap. Not the fact that he's Axl Rose. It's the damn voice. You might not want to recognize the fact that people love his voice, but I'll just say that you are in serious denial if you think SCOM and NR were only hits because of the guitar work. Wake the fuck up. The girls went crazy over Axl's voice, and plenty of guys love his voice too because it's unique compared to the Motley Crue/Poison/Skidd Row/whatever other hair band singers were around at the time. They all sounded the same except for him. He stood out, and still stands out just like Slash/Duff/Izzy stood out from the other hair metal guitarists and bassists of the rock scene back then.
There are plenty of emo bands that have singers with unique voices. Guess what? The little girlies love them too, so don't make it into some Axl is better than everybody thing because it simply isn't true. Axl has a unique voice that girls love, not the only unique voice girls love.
NR and SCOM were acceptable to guys because of the guitar work. There weren't too many 16 year old guys going "SCOM is so sweet - I just love that Axl and his pure singing voice" - at least not where I lived. SCOM came on one time when I was getting stoned around the age of 16 and we rocked out to the guitar, not Axl. Axl may as well not have been there. Now that you're older, you may look at it differently, but put yourself back in 1987 or 1991 and think about what would have happened to a 16 year old guy that walked around saying "Axl writes such pretty lyrics and has a beautiful voice" all the time.
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Re: And Here ... We ... Go.
tejastech08 wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Axl's songs are some of my all time favorites, but they are what they are...pansy songs saved by some good to amazing guitar work.
I do agree that Axl's lyrics are pretty wimpy on a lot of the epics/ballads, but his VOICE is what separates him from the EMO crap. Not the fact that he's Axl Rose. It's the damn voice. You might not want to recognize the fact that people love his voice, but I'll just say that you are in serious denial if you think SCOM and NR were only hits because of the guitar work. Wake the fuck up. The girls went crazy over Axl's voice, and plenty of guys love his voice too because it's unique compared to the Motley Crue/Poison/Skidd Row/whatever other hair band singers were around at the time. They all sounded the same except for him. He stood out, and still stands out just like Slash/Duff/Izzy stood out from the other hair metal guitarists and bassists of the rock scene back then.
There are plenty of emo bands that have singers with unique voices. Guess what? The little girlies love them too, so don't make it into some Axl is better than everybody thing because it simply isn't true. Axl has a unique voice that girls love, not the only unique voice girls love.
NR and SCOM were acceptable to guys because of the guitar work. There weren't too many 16 year old guys going "SCOM is so sweet - I just love that Axl and his pure singing voice" - at least not where I lived. SCOM came on one time when I was getting stoned around the age of 16 and we rocked out to the guitar, not Axl. Axl may as well not have been there. Now that you're older, you may look at it differently, but put yourself back in 1987 or 1991 and think about what would have happened to a 16 year old guy that walked around saying "Axl writes such pretty lyrics and has a beautiful voice" all the time.
His voice on that song kicks ass. The lyrics suck.
Re: And Here ... We ... Go.
I think axl has a hell of a voice and his lyrics are full of emotion. you cant be a hardass all the time even i can understand that. he writes what he feels. the newer shit he aint a angry 20 something anymore. i dnt think he is be a pussy the guy seems to have pain and thats how he deals wit it
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I think axl has a hell of a voice and his lyrics are full of emotion. you cant be a hardass all the time even i can understand that. he writes what he feels. the newer shit he aint a angry 20 something anymore. i dnt think he is be a pussy the guy seems to have pain and thats how he deals wit it
Agreed
Besides, Axl is forefilling his want to evolve more then he did with UYI's. It's his choice to go in the direction he went into for this album. Yes, there is alot more synth and funky guitar work but it works for me. I wouldn't want GNR albums one after the other to sound totally the same, whether it'd be the old band or a new band.
Re: And Here ... We ... Go.
monkeychow wrote:I'm confused Buz...are you actually saying you don't think Axl is a good vocal talent? I won't deny that he's had off days live and that perhaps he takes a while to craft what he does and a lot of takes or whatever...but when he is on...damn...do you really think he isn't a good singer?
Great singers aren't only good when they are on. When he's on, he's one of the best as indicated by studio performances and occasional live efforts. When he's off (most of the time live) he's pretty bad. Sure, everyone has bad days, but Axl has had bad tours with a few good days mixed in.
I'm sure some of that has to do with the different "styles" he sings in, but that's just making excuses. If you can't handle different styles, don't use them. He's my favorite rock singer of all time - that doesn't mean he's the best.
For Axlin08 who only seems to see what he wants to see in posts.
- tejastech08
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Re: And Here ... We ... Go.
Axlin08 wrote:It's not nice enough. Post it again, do it better.
Axl is a great studio singer when he can choose when, what, and how he sings. He's hit and miss live, but when he's on, he's very good.
Is that nicer and better?
No! Suck up more to Axl.
Signed,
Jarmo, Beta, et al 
