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#1 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
look, metallex78, robin finck dominated bumblefoot on the up close and personal tour. bumble isn't in the same league as robin finck. bumble is an add on. a tour hand. robin finck is the lead guitarist on the latest guns n roses record called....not "greatest hits" called "chinese democracy"
#2 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
bobo wrote:i don't think dj or bumble have proved their worth to be on the follow up.
But Robin and Bucket proved their worth to you when they were on a good song right? DJ and Bumble should be given a shot too.
It's also worth noting that Bumblefoot has incredible chops and DJ has demonstrated some pretty good riffing and stuff with Sixx:Am. When you consider that Axl have Robin a shot direct from the circus - i'd say in terms of proving their worth DJ has the credibility.
bobo wrote:they already made the follow up lol which contradicts everything dj and bumble say to the media about the follow up
No it doesn't. Bumble has already said he played on other CD era tracks that were not yet released. DJ has stated that axl has many unreleased songs, and that DJ would love to write and record with him.
bobo wrote:everybody likes guns n roses as a 5 piece. so there should be a new 5 piece. axl rose, robin finck, tommy stinson, richard fortus, an brain. this would be the greatest rock band of all time
Yeah a lot of people would enjoy a 5 piece model. My line up would be different to yours though.
I won't tell you who I'd have on lead as I know it will upset you
I'm curious to know why you don't like frank though? I think he's great as GNR's drummer.
bobo wrote:i think axl is still doing these tours so he could get inducted into the HOF.
That's insane. GNR is being inducted because AFD is one of the most important rock albums of all time and then because the UYI tour and the era of the Big 3 videos captured the hearts of millions.
And although I think some of the Chinese songs are amongst Axl's best work, if anything I think continuting GNR with new line ups and the changing cast of characters would harm the hall of fame chances rather than increase them. I see absolutely no connection between the current tour and the hall of fame - except maybe if Axl and Slash are savvy they might use the HOF exposure to pimp out their respective next projects.
bobo wrote:axl told eddie trunk " i can do more with chinese democracy." well. how can axl do more when the lead guitar player of chinese democracy isn't in the band?
Because he owns the rights to what they already did. Chinese Democracy 1 came out at a time when Bucket and Robin had left yet featured their work. We know they have other recordings. So he can easily launch a CD2 with contributions of them. Not to mention what else bumble and ashba might add.
bobo wrote:axl has put himself in a hole. if robin returned....axl could start to climb his way out of the hole. right now axl is stuck in the hole. axl can't get out.
axl needs robin's help to bring guns n roses back to glory!Rubbish. Axl is far more likely to bring back GNR "glory" with DJ - who has demonstrated success as a commercial songwriter than with bucket or robin who are great but advent guarde and "art" guitarists. Not to mention that aside from yourself and russ and a small proportion of the fanbase, many many people are offended by robin's versions of the classics. If anything I think it was Robin's playing live that caused a number of people to give up on the wait for CD.
bobo wrote:dj and bumblefoot are only looking for themselves. they're not team players.
Robin is such a team player that it was known that he could not get on well with Buckethead. He's also such a team player that he quit GNR for NIN not once but twice.
we don't know why robin left twice for NIN. axl hasn't talked about it
i know robin is a team player. seeing him many times live and the chinese democracy record shows he's a team player and more of a team player than dj ashba and bumblefoot
if dj ashba respected robin, he wouldn't be stepping on robin telling the press he wants the follow up to be songs he's writing and not robin songs we've yet to hear from chinese democracy sessions
i believe HOF inducted guns n roses because of this tour which features 3 hour shows from axl rose. if axl hadn't have done this tour for 3 hours every night, gnr would not have made first ballot on HOF
motley crue and kiss are trying to cash in on HOF on their own with the TOUR
dj ashba is only in it for himself. guns n roses isn't back to glory. every show is a classic hits show for 3 hours. new songs don't dominate the setlist. if axl want to get back to glory with guns n roses....he has done 2 things
1. replace dj and bumble with robin
2. release chinese 2 without dj and bumble on it
the follow up has to be robin and bucket on lead guitars only. nobody else. it's their work. axl made the mistake of replacing brian may on chinese 1. but axl shouldn't make the same mistakes with the follow up. which means no songs from dj or bumble on the next record
axl really can't do more with chinese. look, greatest hits has a sales surge. chinese democracy has dropped off the sales map. how can more be done? the HOF won't boost chinese sales online and itunes. it'll boost the other guns n roses records. like appetite. especially appetite.
axl's put himself in a BIG hole with chinese democracy
i don't like frank cause he's no brain. brain is the chinese democracy drummer. brain did the work. brain is axl's choice like robin finck. frank was an ad on. bumblefoot was a add on. chinese democracy doesn't need add ons
chinese democracy follow ups need great guitarists in the business like robin finck and buckethead
#3 Re: Guns N' Roses » Greatest Hits at Number 3 on Billboard 200 » 632 weeks ago
yeah man. classics hits man oh yeah man
#4 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl, about that RRHOF... » 632 weeks ago
okay, russtcb. then bring on the reunion that'll never happen at the rock n roll hall of fame. okay? bring on slash. duff. izzy. steven. matt sorum. bring on your buddies. your idols. bring back the past. bring back appetite for destruction. bring back 80's gunners for the rock n roll hall of fame. oh yeah!
#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
bobo wrote:. robin's solos on cd2 will be on cd2. nothing dj or bumble can do about it. no matter how many songs dj says he's writing to the press.
I would assume the best of Robin's work will be kept for CD2.
But I would also speculate that DJ will be added in places where he has something to contribute. Be that guitars or other production. I also wouldn't be surprised if the new band added a song to go with the 2000era material.
It's one of the things that makes CD2 an interesting idea. You can have a band with Bucket, Robin, DJ, Bumble, Richard and Paul in the one place.
bobo wrote:it's all about touring for axl. like motley crue and kiss. all about touring for them too. goin on the TOUR. axl has been on many TOURS since 2001.
This is the way it is for most bands since these days hardly anyone pays for recorded music anymore.
bobo wrote:robin stepped up when no one else would touch axl and did the chinese democracy record.
Given Axl is one of the most famous frontmen in the world, and in 1993 was at the peak of his fame pretty much, I'd be shocked if no one else wanted to work with him.
bobo wrote:the problem is dj and bumble want their spot on cd2. with little to no impact from robin, bucket, and brain on cd2. they want their spots. they don't want to wait. they look out for themselves. they don't respect what's been done by robin
Actually DJ and Bumble have been very respectful to all past band members whenever they're asked a question about anyone.
I don't doubt they are also keen to record as GNR but I certainly couldn't fault them for being the active members of a band and wanting to record as the band.
bobo wrote:so it would be big if robin returns to the band and axl cuts both dj and bumble. cuts the band down. cuts it down to what it was in the 80's and 90's before dizzy reed.
Firstly I think Robin appeared as a guest appearance and probably not as replacing DJ. Secondly, there's nothing to suggest that if he did rejoin the band that Axl would also strip-down the band and get rid of Bumble, Dizzy, Chris or whatever and return it to a 5 piece. If robin did rejoin I think you'd still see the full line up ala the 2006 tour.
bobo wrote:because what robin did that night felt like the REUNION with slash at HOF. that's how big Robin's presence and performance was on the up close and personal tour with the band known as guns n roses
Well I'm sure to some CD era fans Robin's presence is of extreme importance. Although I also think if he rejoined full time it would piss off as many people as it pleased, as a lot of people do not like the way he covers Slash's parts.
i don't think dj or bumble have proved their worth to be on the follow up. robin and bucket have. they already made the follow up lol which contradicts everything dj and bumble say to the media about the follow up
everybody likes guns n roses as a 5 piece. so there should be a new 5 piece. axl rose, robin finck, tommy stinson, richard fortus, an brain. this would be the greatest rock band of all time
i think axl is still doing these tours so he could get inducted into the HOF. eddie trunk made a big deal about 3 hour shows. the HOF makes a big deal out of all the tours axl has done. then they were inducted into the HOF. feels like a ploy to get into the HOF. get over the hump into HOF by always touring. maybe why motley crue and kiss are doing this tour. doing it for the HOF
it should be different with guns n roses cause of the chinese democracy record. axl told eddie trunk " i can do more with chinese democracy." well. how can axl do more when the lead guitar player of chinese democracy isn't in the band? how can he do more without robin finck? or buckethead? even brain? axl's put himself in a big hole with chinese democracy
and now axl is forced to go back to the past with HOF. i know axl doesn't want that. axl wants to move away from the past. away from slash. away from duff and steven. away from appetite for destruction. why he made the chinese democracy record with robin finck in the first place lol
axl has put himself in a hole. if robin returned....axl could start to climb his way out of the hole. right now axl is stuck in the hole. axl can't get out.
axl needs robin's help to bring guns n roses back to glory!
dj and bumblefoot are only looking for themselves. they're not team players. they just want their spots. no one to take them. if it wasn't true, dj would have talked about robin stealing the spotlight from him and bumblefoot on the up close and personal tour. but dj didn't talk about it. dj only talks about dj. the same with bumble. robin is different. robin cares
#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
bobo wrote:ashba's live playing of robin's studio TIL solo is a DISGRACE
I agree completely. And I find Robin's version of NR to be superior to the original.
dj ashba thinks he's cool. di ashba should just FUCK OFF ha ha
yeah. robin owns november rain live. i'd love to hear a studio re-make of november rain with robin on lead guitar without dj ashba and bumblefoot on it!
#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
no more than finck's live version of november rain
finck plays sweet child, november rain great. dj ashba doesn't
#8 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
ashba's live playing of robin's studio TIL solo is a DISGRACE
#9 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
olorin, robin's TIL solo is pretty SWEET and EPIC
#10 Re: Guns N' Roses » Robin Finck Discussion » 632 weeks ago
you know what? robin's TIL is a spine tingling moment. the biggest spine tingling moment ever in guns n roses albums history. and robin's TIL solo is absolutely magical too!
