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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
This election is completely rigged. Trump wasn't even on my ballot. Hilary, Bernie, and a bunch of no name dip shits were on it but no Trump. I am an absentee voter(Independent) but instead of mailing it in I sometimes just fill it out and take it in there on my drive home. Once I noticed I wasn't even being allowed the option to vote for him, ripped it up and threw it in the trash.
I definitely wont be voting in the general. They're handing it to Hillary on a silver platter so I'm not gonna bother pretending that we have a choice. Everything else is just a sideshow/entertainment. The corruption in this country literally makes me sick.
I hope I live to see the day when someone rises up out of nowhere and destroys TPTB we have in place. It has to stop.
Going to be a landslide this fall.
She's definitely the next president but it wont be a landslide. They'll make it a bit close for the entertainment value and to fuel the news cycle.
Both sides can fuck off. They're one and the same anyways.
edit: One other thing...
Earlier today when I was at the store I saw the headline for my local newspaper....
Hillary clinches victory
The polls had only been open a couple hours at that point. Disgusting. Clearly intended to keep any Sanders supporters at home or get them to just go ahead and vote for the "winner"(Hilary).
They don't even try to hide the fact that the fix is in anymore. They know the general public is simply too stupid to notice and too busy staring at their phones to give a rat's ass.
In a primary there are certain rules within local Democrat/Republican parties where independents aren't allowed to vote in their party primaries. I think republicans have a closed primary in California (Democrats have an open primary in California so you're allowed to vote in it) and you most likely had an NPP ballot (No Party Preference) so the California Republican party didn't allow you to vote for Trump.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Nice job giving them the benefit of the doubt. I've been independent for years and this is the first time they wouldn't allow me to vote for a republican.
Someone told me there were like 5 different ballots in our primary this year and they may have "accidentally" sent me the wrong one. In previous primaries I vote for some repubs and some dems. Always hated Fiensteinn and would vote for a republican fence post to get her out of office. I had been voting against her since the first time I voted.
I've voted for republicans(and dems) in many primaries....except this one.
I know what they're doing. They'll fuck up a certain percentage of ballots just to guarantee this state cant go red in such a crucial election.
I would interpret it as TPTB don't want him winning, not that the election is a lock. They didn't want him to get the nomination either and see how that went.
Also don't forget what area of Cali I'm in....I've told you guys for months that Trump has a legit shot here due to us being forced to drown in illegals here to the point our billboards are in spanish and you practically have to know Spanish to order a damn Big Mac. Long John Silvers went out of business here because their workers couldn't even understand english.
Fuck up some ballots here and he wont have a chance.
If I vote I may have to switch back to republican. Its disgusting that they'll do this to independents. They clearly don't want Trump pulling in anyone outside that hardcore repub base. It all makes me sick.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Either way we slice it, its bullshit.
Why on earth would Trump or the republicans not want independents voting for them? They NEED voters like me. They also needed pissed off dem voters sick of all this corruption. So their answer to people sick of it is to corrupt the process even more?
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Every primary should be open... The "caucus" bull shit is voter suppression big time. I don't think you should be able to do sabotage votes, but if you are an independent and want to vote for Trump or Bernie you should be able to, no doubt.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Talk grows of replacing Trump at GOP convention
There is growing talk on the right of replacing Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive nominee for president, and even chatter about a possible alternative.
As Trump has floundered over the past week after questioning a federal judge’s impartiality because of his Mexican ancestry, Trump’s critics within the GOP have stepped up their efforts to thwart him. Some anti-Trump conservatives, who have tried for months to recruit an independent candidate, have begun looking more closely at attempting to persuade delegates at next month’s GOP convention to nominate someone other than Trump.
“There is a rapidly moving train toward the convention to try to obstruct it at the convention. Trump in the last 72 hours has given hope to people who think it’s now possible,” said Erick Erickson, a conservative radio talk show host and one of Trump’s most resolute critics.
“He’s starting to give everybody hope that he should be stopped at the convention,” Erickson said, though he cautioned that if Trump “cleans up his act then I think that hope will go away.”
One of the central players inside the movement to recruit an independent conservative candidate also said Monday that an anti-Trump group was “actively recruiting and setting a convention strategy.”
And David French, a conservative writer who considered running as an anti-Trump independent candidate, told Yahoo News that Trump shouldn’t take his convention nomination for granted. “If Trump continues to be cocky, saying, ‘I can do whatever I want and do whatever I want because I own these people, there’s a limit to that,” French said. “I’m sorry, but there is.”
Public calls for Republicans to replace Trump grew Wednesday.
“I want to support the nominee of the party, but I think the party ought to change the nominee. Because we’re going to get killed with this nominee,” Hugh Hewitt, a nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host, said. “They ought to get together and let the convention decide. And if Donald Trump pulls over a makeover in the next four to five weeks, great, they can keep him.”
And the same day, Steve Deace, a conservative activist and radio talk show host from Iowa, reviewed Trump’s most recent missteps on his radio show and urged the 2,500 delegates to the Republican convention to “make this stop.”
“History is calling you to step up to the plate. You have not a choice but an obligation. You must save the country,” Deace said to the delegates.
A.J. Spiker, a former Iowa Republican Party chairman, tweeted on Tuesday, “The Republican Party needs a patriot to step forward, challenge Trump, work delegates and win the GOP nomination for president in Cleveland.”
Prominent Republican politicians have also started to distance themselves from Trump. Sen. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., said Tuesday he would not vote for Trump despite having pledged previously to support the party’s nominee. And Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., who also has said he won’t support Trump, told an Arizona radio station that there is “fear and loathing” of the party’s nominee.
“There’s not a lot of enthusiasm. There’s some resignation and some mixture of fear and loathing to think about what the next couple months will bring given the statements that he has made,” Flake said.
Amid this agitation for a Trump alternative, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s name has been increasingly mentioned as a possible replacement. Walker was an early frontrunner in the GOP primary, but he suspended his campaign last summer in the face of sagging fundraising and poll numbers.
Walker previously said he would ultimately support the GOP nominee. But on Tuesday, Walker backed away from supporting Trump, pointedly saying, “He’s not yet the nominee.”
The conservative site RedState reported Wednesday that there are “rumors” that Walker is “open” to such an outcome. And one source who has been involved in the effort to recruit an independent candidate said Walker has told those working to find an alternative that he would be willing to serve as an alternative at the convention if Trump continues to implode.
Rick Wilson, a Florida-based Republican operative involved in the stop-Trump effort, said Walker’s potential entry into the race was “speculative but widely discussed.”
For his part, Walker dismissed the speculation in a statement to Yahoo News: “Let me be clear: I am focused entirely on being governor. If there’s any campaign in the future, it’s going to be running for reelection in 2018, which is a decision that we’ll make in the months ahead following the next state budget.”
Not every anti-Trump conservative thinks the convention discussion is wise. “People have scenarios of the convention. I think they are a waste of time,” said Michael P. Farris, president of Patrick Henry College. “Not that I wouldn’t wish it. I wish it every day.”
Nevertheless, many have argued that the delegates to the convention are technically free to nominate whomever they want, despite the impression that they are bound by the results of the primary votes in each state. Every convention votes on its own rules, so if this year’s GOP delegates wanted to unbind themselves, the argument goes, nothing would stop them. Numerous judicial rulings have found that even state laws, which purport to bind approximately one-third of the delegates, cannot govern the internal affairs of a national political party — such as how delegates vote at a convention.
Deace wrote in a column on Saturday that the convention rules allowing delegates to follow their consciences “are in place to protect the system from just such a leader” as Trump.
French pointed out that many of the delegates to the convention are “people who loathe [Trump], and that hasn’t changed.”
In the past few days, Trump found himself in a new firestorm after he repeatedly brought up the Mexican heritage of U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo P. Curiel in order to question the judge’s impartiality in a case involving Trump University.
In February, Trump linked Curiel’s heritage to the judge’s supposed hostility in his rulings so far in a lawsuit brought by people who say they were defrauded by Trump University. But the Manhattan developer began escalating that claim last week. Curiel was born in Indiana and is an American citizen.
Trump argued that Curiel had a “conflict of interest” because he is “of Mexican heritage.” Trump said that because he wants to build a wall across the U.S.-Mexico border, Curiel is inherently predisposed to rule against him. As a result, Trump said Curiel should recuse himself from the case involving Trump University, a now-shuttered for-profit school focused on real estate training.
A wave of Republicans rebuked Trump’s argument. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, an enthusiastic Trump supporter, said Sunday that it “was one of the worst mistakes Trump has made.” House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., who endorsed Trump just last week, said Monday that Trump’s comments were “a textbook definition of a racist comment.”
Trump went into damage control mode Tuesday afternoon and evening, issuing a long statement defending Trump University and his complaints about Curiel. Trump further insisted he would no longer talk about the case.
At an election night press conference celebrating more primary wins, Trump implicitly acknowledged his recent struggles by promising to do better.
“You’ve given me the honor to lead the Republican Party to victory this fall,” Trump said, reading from a teleprompter. “I understand the responsibility of carrying the mantle and I will never, ever let you down.”
Many believe Trump is incapable of showing more discipline.
“Every pivot of Trump’s is a 360,” Wilson said. “There’s no better version of Donald Trump. There’s no good Donald Trump.”
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
All that article states is these politicians admitting that your vote means NOTHING. Trump mopped the floor with everyone the GOP threw at him, including Jeb who had enough money behind him to balance several state budgets.
Now they want an independent candidate after shutting out independent voters? How ironic. It's not going to fly.
Again with the everyone hates Trump stuff. Trump needs to be placed in the Guiness book of world records as the most hated guy in the world who could draw in literally thousands of people cheering him at every airport his plane landed at.
The GOP is simply doing everything in its power to make Hillary a lock for president. The media is on the same page. I'm not buying a milligram of the shit they are selling.
I want Jesse Ventura back on TV saying all the stuff he was saying 10 years ago about how both sides argue in front of the camera but hold hands and toast one another when the cameras are off. Very few were listening then. They'll listen now. During this election, people were waking up to all this corruption which helped fuel the rise of Trump and Sanders but they are putting the sheep back to sleep again. The general public needs a shot of adrenaline.
I like the idea that was being floated here in CA to write in Reagan's name and not vote for anybody in protest. I wish this would catch on in the mainstream. It would require a huge social media blitz as the media will not go for that.
Both sides are forcing Hillary on us. I don't give a damn how much repubs say they hate her....they want her in there and are doing everything in their power to make it happen...including the attempt to implode their own party's nominee.
The Bush/Gore election was fair and square compared to what voters are enduring in 2016.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
I think Trumps best chance, is to calm down, quit being crazy & become a moderate. Enough of this fake "I'm a strict NRA/Nascar conservative' crap.
That said, I really think this next President is going to be a 1 term President anyway. (likely a 90% chance it's Hillary anyway)
