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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
This is kind of a big deal:
A Letter From G.O.P. National Security Officials Opposing Donald Trump
Dozens of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter saying they will not vote for Mr. Trump, the Republican nominee.
Read it here:
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Those are two completely different situations. On the Trump video the SS comes up to protect him from an assailant, with Hillary they step in because she's about to have a fit for some reason and they have to coach her back.
Where do you come up with this? All I see in both videos is the SS surrounding the candidates for some reason that can't be seen on camera. Trump reacts with fear while Hillary stands there composed the whole time. Hillary is also told she is okay and to keep talking.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
I watched both videos. I see absolutely nothing wrong with either one. In fact....all I see is the SS doing its job in both situations. The HIllary clip shows how incredible they were at assessing the scene and monitoring both the audience and her reaction. We cant see the audience, but something concerns Hillary, they step in immediately and tell her to basically calm down, keep talking, its taken care of, etc. Also notice the SS guard on the far right had been about to reach for his gun as his hand is pulling back when he comes into the shot. The mic actually should've been killed during the exchange between Hillary/SS but there wasn't time.
I know people on both sides will criticize both incidents but IMO there's nothing to criticize. All I see are men instantaneously reacting to a situation....which is their job.
A big 
to those guys.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
I watched both videos. I see absolutely nothing wrong with either one. In fact....all I see is the SS doing its job in both situations. The HIllary clip shows how incredible they were at assessing the scene and monitoring both the audience and her reaction. We cant see the audience, but something concerns Hillary, they step in immediately and tell her to basically calm down, keep talking, its taken care of, etc. Also notice the SS guard on the far right had been about to reach for his gun as his hand is pulling back when he comes into the shot. The mic actually should've been killed during the exchange between Hillary/SS but there wasn't time.
I know people on both sides will criticize both incidents but IMO there's nothing to criticize. All I see are men instantaneously reacting to a situation....which is their job.
A big
I agree. These guys are great at what they do.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Evan McMullin, Anti-Trump Republican, Mounts Independent Presidential Bid
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
And another steps forward to pen a letter.
The writer, a Republican, represents Maine in the Senate.
I will not be voting for Donald Trump for president. This is not a decision I make lightly, for I am a lifelong Republican. But Donald Trump does not reflect historical Republican values nor the inclusive approach to governing that is critical to healing the divisions in our country.
When the primary season started, it soon became apparent that, much like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Mr. Trump was connecting with many Americans who felt that their voices were not being heard in Washington and who were tired of political correctness. But rejecting the conventions of political correctness is different from showing complete disregard for common decency. Mr. Trump did not stop with shedding the stilted campaign dialogue that often frustrates voters. Instead, he opted for a constant stream of denigrating comments, including demeaning Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) heroic military service and repeatedly insulting Fox News host Megyn Kelly.
With the passage of time, I have become increasingly dismayed by his constant stream of cruel comments and his inability to admit error or apologize. But it was his attacks directed at people who could not respond on an equal footing — either because they do not share his power or stature or because professional responsibility precluded them from engaging at such a level — that revealed Mr. Trump as unworthy of being our president.
My conclusion about Mr. Trump’s unsuitability for office is based on his disregard for the precept of treating others with respect, an idea that should transcend politics. Instead, he opts to mock the vulnerable and inflame prejudices by attacking ethnic and religious minorities. Three incidents in particular have led me to the inescapable conclusion that Mr. Trump lacks the temperament, self-discipline and judgment required to be president.
The first was his mocking of a reporter with disabilities, a shocking display that did not receive the scrutiny it deserved. I kept expecting Mr. Trump to apologize, at least privately, but he did not, instead denying that he had done what seemed undeniable to anyone who watched the video. At the time, I hoped that this was a terrible lapse, not a pattern of abuse.
The second was Mr. Trump’s repeated insistence that Gonzalo Curiel, a federal judge born and raised in Indiana, could not rule fairly in a case involving Trump University because of his Mexican heritage. For Mr. Trump to insist that Judge Curiel would be biased because of his ethnicity demonstrated a profound lack of respect not only for the judge but also for our constitutional separation of powers, the very foundation of our form of government. Again, I waited in vain for Mr. Trump to retract his words.
Third was Donald Trump’s criticism of the grieving parents of Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq. It is inconceivable that anyone, much less a presidential candidate, would attack two Gold Star parents. Rather than honoring their sacrifice and recognizing their pain, Mr. Trump disparaged the religion of the family of an American hero. And once again, he proved incapable of apologizing, of saying he was wrong.
I am also deeply concerned that Mr. Trump’s lack of self-restraint and his barrage of ill-informed comments would make an already perilous world even more so. It is reckless for a presidential candidate to publicly raise doubts about honoring treaty commitments with our allies. Mr. Trump’s tendency to lash out when challenged further escalates the possibility of disputes spinning dangerously out of control.
I had hoped that we would see a “new” Donald Trump as a general-election candidate — one who would focus on jobs and the economy, tone down his rhetoric, develop more thoughtful policies and, yes, apologize for ill-tempered rants. But the unpleasant reality that I have had to accept is that there will be no “new” Donald Trump, just the same candidate who will slash and burn and trample anything and anyone he perceives as being in his way or an easy scapegoat. Regrettably, his essential character appears to be fixed, and he seems incapable of change or growth.
At the same time, I realize that Mr. Trump’s success reflects profound discontent in this country, particularly among those who feel left behind by an unbalanced economy and who wonder whether their children will have a better life than their parents. As we have seen with the dissatisfaction with both major- party nominees — neither of whom I support — these passions are real and the public will demand action.
Some will say that as a Republican I have an obligation to support my party’s nominee. I have thought long and hard about that, for being a Republican is part of what defines me as a person. I revere the history of my party, most particularly the value it has always placed on the worth and dignity of the individual, and I will continue to work across the country for Republican candidates. It is because of Mr. Trump’s inability and unwillingness to honor that legacy that I am unable to support his candidacy.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Where do you come up with this? All I see in both videos is the SS surrounding the candidates for some reason that can't be seen on camera. Trump reacts with fear while Hillary stands there composed the whole time. Hillary is also told she is okay and to keep talking.
Trump was attacked by an audience member. The SS stepped in to protect him. Several videos of this.
No such thing happened with Hillary. Nobody tried to attack her. She just looks like something triggered her. That guy close to her is not an SS agent going by his clothes and physique. Likely he's the handler when she loses it in public like this. He's been seen carrying what looks like a diazepam injector. The guys on stage are reacting to no threat, when "the doctor" has gotten Hillary back to composure they leave the stage promptly.
The woman looks ill.
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They're definitely reacting to a potential threat. The problem is we do don't get to SEE what happened. It appears to be a heckler but maybe this person flipped her off, pointed their finger like a gun,etc. We just don't know. I agree she gets a strange look on her face but it happens right when she looks at someone.
I assume more info will come out on this situation, especially if SS detained them.
