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misterID
 Rep: 469 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
CSS 2.0 wrote:

People call Trump racist and bigoted because that's exactly what he is.

I'm not ever going to support violence against the ones who choose to support him, but let's call a spade a spade.

The man's biggest selling point is building a giant wall to keep Mexicans out.

Honestly rather shocked to see appreciation of his deeds on here.

This isn't about Trump dude... This is about a culture created by the liberal agenda and it is playing out.  Also many of those are paid protestors.  But these protestors are VALIDATING Trump and they are too fucking stupid to see it.  "yo my nigga, trump a rapist my nigga, trump a racist my nigga, fuck you, fuck trump"......  I have yet to see Trump fanatics show up to a Bernie rally and do this shit.  What do they think this accomplishes????

I don't like Trump, but like even Bill Maher said yesterday, the Free Shit needs to end.  Capitalism is not the enemy and kids are too young to know the bad side of socialism.  Capitalism is good and you need some socialism to keep it in check, he says you need both.  THE ONLY REASON they like Bernie is because he LOVES  to talk about giving free shit away.

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Did you see his Axl picture gag? Funny stuff. He must be a fan because he also mentioned Chinese Democracy in New Rules before also.

Randall, you lost me at "Coulter wrote a great article." I've been pretty vocal opponent about Bernie's followers, black lives matter and the privlaged left, but let's not act like Trump supporters are any better. They're not. Just like it wasn't a coincidence that Bernie was getting the support of the nasty, loser, wannabe commie/anarchist wing, it's not a coincidence Trump is getting endorsements of several white supremist groups. Again, Trump has literally admitted he's a liar and will say and do anything to anyone to get what he wants, has changed his positions on issues multiple times, even on the same day, used the excuse of being a businessman when confronted that he has no integrity in outsourcing jobs to China, paying low wages, supporting imminent domain, lying constantly about his business failures, and people still follow him.

I'm far more concerned how MSNBC is championing outside socialist groups trying to eradicate democratic moderates, like moderates are a problem. The Move On group are so envious of the Tea Party its pathetic. It's like they looked at how the republicans went ultra right wing, did incredible harm to themselves, got Trump and said to themselves, boy that's what we should do to the Democratic party!

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 329 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:

1992 Bill would be called a racist and right ringer if he ran today, and he was a fine president (other than his personal shit). If Hilary would be like Clinton I would be okay with that but she will be 100 times more liberal than that Bill.

misterID
 Rep: 469 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

1992 Bill would be called a racist and right ringer if he ran today, and he was a fine president (other than his personal shit). If Hilary would be like Clinton I would be okay with that but she will be 100 times more liberal than that Bill.

Hilary is not liberal. The liberals just tried to take her down and are refusing to support her.

Smoking Guns
 Rep: 329 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

1992 Bill would be called a racist and right ringer if he ran today, and he was a fine president (other than his personal shit). If Hilary would be like Clinton I would be okay with that but she will be 100 times more liberal than that Bill.

Hilary is not liberal. The liberals just tried to take her down and are refusing to support her.

If she gets Elizabeth Warren as VP she will fuck up big time.

Hilary is not Bill, we don't know exactly what she will do.  She probably is really closer to a republican than a dem, but she may act more liberal than she is to satisfy her base.... Who knows.

misterID
 Rep: 469 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:
misterID wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

1992 Bill would be called a racist and right ringer if he ran today, and he was a fine president (other than his personal shit). If Hilary would be like Clinton I would be okay with that but she will be 100 times more liberal than that Bill.

Hilary is not liberal. The liberals just tried to take her down and are refusing to support her.

If she gets Elizabeth Warren as VP she will fuck up big time.

Hilary is not Bill, we don't know exactly what she will do.  She probably is really closer to a republican than a dem, but she may act more liberal than she is to satisfy her base.... Who knows.

Bill has said she was his co-president. I don't think it will be Warren.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

slcpunk wrote:

I think it would be great if it were Warren. She'd bring over all the Bernie people for starters. I also think she's fantastic all the way around. A breath of fresh air. She's been giving Trump hell lately, which I find both surprising and entertaining. 

I've always thought it would Castro as the Veep to lock the Latino vote. Although they don't need to worry about that too much anymore, Trump already did it for them.

slashsfro
 Rep: 50 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

slashsfro wrote:
Cramer wrote:

I think it would be great if it were Warren. She'd bring over all the Bernie people for starters. I also think she's fantastic all the way around. A breath of fresh air. She's been giving Trump hell lately, which I find both surprising and entertaining. 

I've always thought it would Castro as the Veep to lock the Latino vote. Although they don't need to worry about that too much anymore, Trump already did it for them.

I don't think it'll be Castro.  And Trump has been the Democrats best weapon.  All they have to do is replay his dumb outlandish statements.  I just can't see anyway he can win.  He has no money and the Clinton machine pretty much kills him in organization and the ground game.  Oh and he seems to do really stupid shit on a daily basis.

The NY Times just ran a piece about how he ran his casinos into the ground in Atlantic City.  I've always felt that his "business acumen" has been vastly overated.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

slcpunk wrote:
slashsfro wrote:
Cramer wrote:

I think it would be great if it were Warren. She'd bring over all the Bernie people for starters. I also think she's fantastic all the way around. A breath of fresh air. She's been giving Trump hell lately, which I find both surprising and entertaining. 

I've always thought it would Castro as the Veep to lock the Latino vote. Although they don't need to worry about that too much anymore, Trump already did it for them.

I don't think it'll be Castro.  And Trump has been the Democrats best weapon.  All they have to do is replay his dumb outlandish statements.  I just can't see anyway he can win.  He has no money and the Clinton machine pretty much kills him in organization and the ground game.  Oh and he seems to do really stupid shit on a daily basis.

The NY Times just ran a piece about how he ran his casinos into the ground in Atlantic City.  I've always felt that his "business acumen" has been vastly overated.

Who do you think it might be?

Trump has what appears to be endless issues to be scrutinized on top of whatever comes out of his mouth. It's quite remarkable. The Trump U debacle alone is really pretty scummy. It reminds me of that saying: The strong take from the weak and the smart take from the strong. It's not like he needed the money, he just saw an opportunity to take some, and took it. Just like he saw an opportunity now...

TheMole
 Rep: 77 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

TheMole wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

This gay marriage issue was forced on the American people and mainstreamed and now look what its led to....little boys thinking they're girls and wearing dresses to school(and vice versa)....and now the latest issue with trannies and bathrooms.

Those initially against gay marriage here predicted it would lead to much bigger problems in society. Guess what? We were right.

Look to what it led? How are any of the things you listed here problems? How in god's name does anyone get to decide how someone gets to dress, how the hell does anyone get to decide which gender someone associates with? And how the fuck does any of that impact you or anyone else? Don't give me that bullshit "I want my daughters to be safe" line either, that has got to be the biggest straw man this side of burning man. Pedophiles are always a problem, no matter which gender they are or look like. Which bathrooms do you suggest gay people use then?

Fuck... Land of the Free my ass...

Though I disagree with a lot of it, I can at least respect your opinions on the economical issues, how you support the poor and middle class is not a hard science and opinions on that will inevitably differ. But what people do in the bedroom or bathroom, or how they choose to dress is their decision, no one should commandeer themselves the right to police the personal freedoms of their fellow men.

James
 Rep: 644 

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:
TheMole wrote:

Look to what it led? How are any of the things you listed here problems? How in god's name does anyone get to decide how someone gets to dress, how the hell does anyone get to decide which gender someone associates with? And how the fuck does any of that impact you or anyone else? Don't give me that bullshit "I want my daughters to be safe" line either, that has got to be the biggest straw man this side of burning man. Pedophiles are always a problem, no matter which gender they are or look like. Which bathrooms do you suggest gay people use then?

Fuck... Land of the Free my ass...

In any previous decade were you advocating for these various issues..... women dressing as men to use the mens restrooms, boys wearing dresses to school,etc.? Gonna go out on a limb and say you didn't. Had you advocated for such things, you would've been deemed a complete lunatic by those around you.

Present day.....these things are considered peaches and cream.

I suggest gay people use the same damn bathroom they used since the beginning of time. You know...back when everything was normal.

I have two gay relatives but will use the youngest one as an example here. In the early-mid 00s, we all knew she was gay and it was no big deal. Nobody cared. Live your life. Enjoy yourself. She was actually a member of the old version of our site(ROV) but that's beside the point(hello if God forbid you're lurking 13:peace: ).Something happened along the way and its reached its height the past two years or so.....her being a lesbian somehow morphed into the greatest thing since sliced bread. She pushes it continuously on Facebook(even posted a picture of her buying a book about vaginal fisting), at family gatherings, and people just lap it up. My aunt even wears a shirt saying "I love my lesbian daughter". List goes on. Her girlfriend is one of the types that really annoy me....its crystal clear even to Stevie Wonder that she's not actually gay. It's because its the cool thing now. As soon as it goes out of style, she'll be back on her knees in frat houses in three shakes of a lamb's tail and will deny til the cows come home she was ever a lesbian.

I don't have a problem with gay people but what I do have a problem with is all this shit being shoved in my face on a continuous basis. There's a reason this stuff wasn't deemed acceptable in past decades and pushed on a mainstream level.....it is the outer fringe.

Since you support certain things on the fringe going mainstream, may I ask where you draw the line? When society has reached a point that boys are wearing dresses, "genderfluid", etc. it is not blurring the line...it's erasing it. Once the line is erased, what's next on tap? Is it not the "land of the free" to you until literally anyone can do literally anything?

I don't have children but people worrying about the safety of their children isn't a "straw man".


Pedophiles are always a problem, no matter which gender they are or look like.

I never said they weren't.

Boy, talk about a straw man...

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