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Re: The Space thread
Also take into account bacteria that we brought to Mars could have morphed into some super toxic organism and we could potentially never even know it happened.
I no longer believe manned missions to other planets/moons will ever happen. I think civilization will collapse long before such an achievement occurs.
Nixon should've been hung for cancelling the Saturn program. It destroyed our chances at exploring the Solar System. Instead they greenlit the Shuttle and we jerked off in LEO for decades.
At some point (70s-80s) TPTB decided our future was going to be much different than talked about for decades. Instead of looking out, we looked in.
Now we're in a dystopic hell of our own making and there's no way out.
Re: The Space thread
What's LEO?
I'd like to hear more about where we drifted off into alternative 1985. or whatever alternate line we're on now.
Where did we go wrong? Is there anyone out there that doesn't want to explore space?
I've always wondered what exactly happened that sent us into this dystopic madness.
One part of it is definitely the Internet. In the 2000s when they truly realized how they could essentially control our lives with it, the corporations took it over and turned it into a cesspool.
Now it's even worse....a social and memetic engineering monster that pushes you into echo chambers, tells you what to think, decides what gets to trend each day/hour, and mines your data while beating you over the head with ads. On top of that, anywhere between 60-80% of the Internet, including people you talk to, .are bots and our adversaries use bots to sow division.
It's about to get even worse...AI is about to get behind the steering wheel.
This isn't what the Internet was supposed to be. Go look at the mid-late 90s internet and/or read articles from back then about it.
Smartphones never should've been invented.
ALL of our culture has regressed.
The world also has an entirely different feel to what it was in the 20th century. It's hard to explain...other people feel it to.
I know I'm veering into conspiracy territory but I wonder if some sort of accident happened while TPTB were testing some sort of exotic tech and this caused some sort of alternate timeline/shift and there's simply no way of ever fixing it so we just continue down this alternate path.
Looking at the futuristic stuff from the 20th century is depressing. They had no idea it would turn into this.
Check out retro futurism...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZmt9AOG2ng
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Re: The Space thread
There is a theory called the Great Filter which actually ties together civilization collapse with the Fermi paradox discussed on previous pages. Basically theorizes that a species intelligent enough to colonize space naturally implodes before it has a chance to get there. That might be what's happening on Earth. For example, it's clear that the explosion in technological advancement in the last 150 years or so is happening at a rate way too fast for human evolution to keep up with. From AI threatening to wipe out 90% of both blue collar and white collar jobs within the next century, to people becoming so addicted to screens it causes actual neurological changes, I think there might be something to this.
Re: The Space thread
From AI threatening to wipe out 90% of both blue collar and white collar jobs within the next century, t
More like within the next decade...
I agree with scientists who say life elsewhere in the universe may be so different from us, we might not even be able to detect it if it was staring us in the face.
There's no way intelligent life will always show up resembling us. We're more than likely some quirky accident.
I don't remember the name of the sci-fi story but it tackles this subject..
An advanced alien life form is monitoring us and they are fascinated by the fact we are just walking slabs of breathing meat...and they laugh hysterically at our footprints on the moon and how we consider it some grand achievement.
Some scientists also believe if we ever do establish contact with aliens and/or detect one of their probes entering our system, it will more than likely not be the aliens themselves...it'll be their form of AI.
As far as the paradox/great filter goes, I do agree that it is highly unlikely a super advanced civilization capable of harnessing/controlling its host galaxy doesn't exist or we would have likely spotted it by now.
On the other hand, we haven't scanned every single galaxy yet.
people becoming so addicted to screens it causes actual neurological changes, I think there might be something to this.
There's also another aspect of this...
A species that allows the Internet to become a monster that dominates every aspect of life combined with AI and virtual reality could cause us or any species to stop looking outwards and everything becomes contained here.
Why look out in space when you can create a holographic universe? Why explore when we can create our own worlds to explore?
I've been saying it for years...
The internet was a mistake...and there's no going back with what we've turned it into.
It never should've went beyond what it was in 2000.
Now it's a monster that hoovers up data, tracks your every move, and TPTB control us through social and memetic engineering.
People with zero talent at anything make millions of dollars as "influencers" and instead of kids wanting to be doctors, astronauts, etc...they want to be influencers.
Re: The Space thread
I see it all the time. Men interacting with AI women or slobbering all over AI content surrounding women that aren’t real.
Not too bright folks…our accomplishments in tech have already made us dependent on it. And we’re replacing humans with AI bots.
Women report more connectedness to AI…things like chat gpt basically becoming border line romanticly involved in an emotional way.
I often laugh at Star Trek…because i love the show but it also shows that the way they depict aliens are just humans with different shaped heads. Worf was basically this…and others. While i know it’s just tv show…and they had to appeal the humans. I just was a bit of a paradox.
