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#1 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 21 hours ago

James wrote:

Another reason this may get memory holed...

He may be trans. Before all of his social media profiles were deleted, a few of his pics were found.

So this viral story that the shooter was trans has been debunked as misinformation. The pictures circulating were of a completely innocent and  unrelated trans woman. Another trans woman has apparently also been smeared with this. They've both been advised to lock their online accounts to reduce their risk of doxxing and SWATing.

This misinfo story is a side story to the tragedy in Texas but it's beyond fucked that they were targeted in that that way. On top of all that... what relevance would it have had if the shooter had been trans?!

Agreed on the cost of living crisis not being covered properly. It's bad here but when I recently visited the US earlier this month I was shocked by the prices I was seeing. $10 for 5pc of Claritin or Benadryl. $8 for fucking Cheerios. The price of meats, veg, cheeses etc was all insane too those are just the two that stuck in my mind as unaffordably high for what they are.

In the UK we are set for another huge hike in energy bills in October after the one we just had in April... people are going to be choosing between warmth or food come Winter.

#2 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 9 days ago

And an on topic read about how things are done in other countries.

https://dukecenterforglobalreproductive … therlands/

Key quote

Dutch sexuality education begins as early as age four, when children receive lessons on relationships, appropriate touching, and intimacy. The curriculum expands to include age-appropriate topics and concepts. Seven-year-olds learn the proper names of different body parts and eight-year-olds discuss gender stereotypes. By the time they are 11, Dutch students should be able to discuss reproduction, safer sex, and sexual abuse.

Data suggest that the Dutch approach to sexuality education is incredibly effective. On average, teens in the Netherlands do not have sex at an earlier age than those in other European countries, and they tend to have positive first sexual experiences. Dutch teens are among the top users of the birth control pill, and nine out of ten used contraceptives the first time they had sexual intercourse. The Netherlands boasts one of the lowest rates of teen pregnancy in the world, as well as low rates of HIV and other STIs. While widely accessible contraception certainly contributes to this, a growing body of research suggests that starting comprehensive sexuality education at a young age helps avoid unintended pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections.

#3 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 9 days ago

Mitch, maybe accidentally, touched on a sort of good moral point when he said parents aren't always right. Not one really to debate but to reflect on.

I remember getting taught about the civil rights and suffragette movements when I was growing up. I also remember as part of divinity studies getting taught about various different religons, their beliefs and practices. I also remember being taught about contraception, despite going to a Catholic school, because it was part of the national curriculum and had to be taught.

If I had parents whose personal viewpoints disagreed with any of those topics, or disagreed with me being taught about them, are they in the right if they complain to the school or government and demand I am not taught about them? By modern standards learning that racism is bad, women being able to vote is good and knowning about safe sex practices all seem like sensible things to be taught. Rewind like just 10-20 years before I was in school and some would have objected to those things being mentioned.

On the topic at hand. I don't see how it's harmful to explain to kids that some people are born a boy or girl but later realise they are more comfortable identifying the opposite way. Also, don't see how it's harmful to acknowledge that some kids in the class might have two moms or two dads instead of a mom & dad.

I don't know the extent of the education being offered in various states in the US, but those two key points can be delivered in an uncontroversial and age appropriate manner and it seems really close minded to say that they can't be. Schools don't just teach kids maths, literature, languages and science. They also teach kids about the modern world we live in, about society and prepare them for life in general. It's why schools also teach things like cooking etc. as well.

#4 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 9 days ago

The whole conversation around these issues (and others) would be better served by being cooled down. How that happens, I don't know. I think finger pointing and blaming "left" or "right" for this is dumb "they started it" nonsense. At the end of the day, this can all be discussed without being disrespectful.

Whether someone think trans people should be in the gendered spaces they identify with or not, whether they should compete in the same sports or not - can at least discuss the issue respectfully and not throw slurs at them. The grooming stuff is offensive because it's been a common trope for decades to label gay people and later trans people as child groomers and paedophiles. It's a really fucked up accusation to paint a whole community of people with. At the end of the day LGBT+ people have faced discrimination and persecution for years, when they explain why certain things are hurtful to them or dangerous in terms of potentially inciting violent actions against them they should be listened to and not dismissed.

On the education aspect of this. I see nothing wrong with the notion of homosexuality or transgendrism being explained to kids at a level that is appropriate and that they can understand. It doesn't actually need to involve any sex ed. Kids know that grown ups have marriages or have boyfriends/girlfriends. It isn't radical to say some boys like girls, some like boys, some like both and just leave it at that. That being something represented in early years education isn't inflammatory and has nothing to actually do with sex. As for transgenderism - it doesn't have anything to do with having sex anyways and a kid friendly explanation should be as simple as "Some people are determined to be boys or girls when they are younger but later realise that they feel more comfortable being the other way around". Leave it at that as far as early years education and I can't see the issue.

That story about those boys being accused of sexual harassment is nonsensical and bizarre. Were they being rude and indignant by not being respectful and identifying their classmate the correct way? Yes. Could that be seen as abusive, bullying, harassing or even discriminatory behaviour? Possibly, yes. But it isn't sexual harassment which would require derogatory comments about the victim of a sexual nature to be made or unwanted physical contact.

#5 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 9 days ago

misterID wrote:

I’d love a recorded version of Wichita Lineman.

Same, would make a great b-side or bonus track. It's one of the recent covers they've added recently that sounds suited to how he currently sounds. Some fans rag on it being in the set and I get why, cause we're hungry for new music, but performance wise it's actually a bit of a highlight these days - it actually sounds good.

#6 Re: Guns N' Roses » Slash confirms “one or two” new songs by June » 10 days ago

We know he did vocals in late 06/early 07 and then did vocals in 07 for Bach's album. Fortus also said in November 2014 that Axl had been recording some vocals.

GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Richard Fortus took part in a workshop on November 20 in Sydney, Australia. You can watch video footage of the event in three parts below. A couple of excerpts follow (transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET).


"There's so much stuff that's recorded, there's so much stuff that was done. I mean, there's three albums' worth of material, easy…

"I know this week he's [GUNS N' ROSES singer Axl Rose] recording a lot of stuff, vocally.

Source: … -its-ready

Plus we know he did that Loony Tunes song.

Basically we know he's done some vocals since that 98-99 period. How much? Who knows.

#7 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R 2021 Tour Thread » 6 weeks ago

I always prefer smaller shows (500-5000) or big stadium shows. Anything inbetween always feels like the inconveniences of larger shows without any of the "pageantry" of stadium rock shows i.e. pyro, big huge stadium singalongs etc.

#8 Re: The Sunset Strip » So, Will Smith slapped Chris Rock... » 8 weeks ago

Surely if it's a work Rock sells it more? I think based on everything it's genuine.

Smith's blown up what was supposed to be the pinnacle moment of his career. Madness. And totally out of line. I imagine only reason he wasn't asked to leave is the Academy didn't know what to do and knew he was going to win.

#9 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 10 weeks ago

He's gone. This fucking sucks.

#10 Re: The Garden » Current Events Thread » 10 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

One thing we are finding out is Russia’s military with the exception of nukes is trash and now we must must question how efficient their nuke stockpile is. Half are probably duds. What an embarrassment for pooty poo

What's surprised isn't the quality of the equipment. Some is a bit dated but it seems largely good and effective. It's the incompetence of it's deployment and use alongside their apparent disorganisation. And that's a personnel and internal culture problem for the Russian military and state, no amount of fancy kit fixes that.

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