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#1 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 33 hours ago

PaSnow wrote:

Flynn didn't flip?  Really, I find that interesting? :

This alone is enough to disqualify Flagg from any convo about this investigation (I thought he was leaving anyway?)

Flynn not only flipped, but was a star witness for Mueller, providing evidence for over a year. To say he's not cooperating is like...huh?

#2 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

For realz. Every story you guys have talked about for months has been total bullshit. At what point do you recognize how reckless it is for media to spread this shit. All the talk of stoking hate?  This is clearly propaganda executed in bad faith. Particularly when you consider how favorably they showed Obama’s many, many objective and factual fuck ups. It’s just absurd that not only this is happening, but how many devious people embrace it because they’re not intelligent, informed or even decent. It’s truly shameful. I can’t fathom how anyone can trust these outlets.

They are quite literally fake news.

Real news is anything trump says right?

It’s weird how CNN is fake news until it says something RF wants to hear...

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WSJ, NYTs and Washington Post have been covering this fiasco the entire time, putting forth one damning article after another in great detail. Thorough investigative journalism at its finest that leaves no stone unturned. Trump people ignore that reality. Looking for the "aha" moment to justify their "fake news" narrative and ignore this criminal administration. 

They're traitors, just like Trump is.

#3 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

PaSnow wrote:

Hmmm, sorta like the Steele Dossier tho, not false, just unsubstantiated.

"BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate,"

Curious how its a bit of wordplay that "specific statements"... are not accurate. Just read the Buzzfeed article, there's a lot of specific, small accusations which, if individually are false, aren't a complete bottoming out of the meat of it.


Although, it's possible they got bad info & possibly intentionally. That'd be quite a swindle tho. We'll find alot out on Feb 8th or whenever Cohens testifying, that's for sure.


Mueller's office has been virtually silent this entire time, so to see them say anything is very strange IMO. In fact it's allowed Trump and his delusional base to attack him with their lies the entire time.

So for them to issue that statement is baffling to me.

Either way, it doesn't mean much in the big scheme of things. Trump isn't any less fucked today because of this. It's not like there aren't half a dozen other reasons to charge him with obstruction anyway.

#4 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

For realz. Every story you guys have talked about for months has been total bullshit. At what point do you recognize how reckless it is for media to spread this shit. All the talk of stoking hate?  This is clearly propaganda executed in bad faith. Particularly when you consider how favorably they showed Obama’s many, many objective and factual fuck ups. It’s just absurd that not only this is happening, but how many devious people embrace it because they’re not intelligent, informed or even decent. It’s truly shameful. I can’t fathom how anyone can trust these outlets.

They are quite literally fake news.

Such projection. You've been wrong on just about every single fucking thing. Seriously...everything.

They didn't say it was false in its entirety. They said it wasn't accurate. Otherwise they would have said it the entire report was wrong, which they did not.

You're a right wing stooge, so again you're looking for a slam dunk to support your partisan bias. So predictable. I knew you'd be here saying this. Like clockwork. Even after everything that's come to light, you won't back down. And here's my prediction, once the shit hits the fan and the report is issued, you'll slice it, dice it and play semantics to prove you were right. Even if Trump gets 86d. That's just who you are I guess.

#5 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 2 days ago

Mueller already covered this one. Gee whiz, ya think Donald lied on this part of the written exam?



#6 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 3 days ago

PaSnow wrote:

Lol, now Guiliani is saying "No collusion between Donald Trump, and Russia"  but claims he never said anything about 'The Campaign' lol. A nod in acknowledgement to collusion!


Collusion it is folks!  Get yer popcorn ready, here comes the finish.

This is really bonkers. Hey, I never said the campaign didn't collude with Russia, get your facts straight MSM!

#7 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 3 days ago

bigbri wrote:

This is pretty big, methinks. It’s not collusion, but definitely obstruction. And Mueller has emails, texts and documents that show exactly what Cohen alleges, they’ve reported.


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It's a very big deal, and it's only what we're learning publicly from Cohen right now. Flynn has met with Mueller what? 19 times? Don Junior and Ivanka were also lying their asses off about this.

Even if it's not collusion, which I believe he also did, he clearly was looking out for his own interests, not ours as a country. He's Putin's boy alright, there is no denying that, and he wanted to shape American policy in order to help....himself.

With Mueller having texts, emails and other docs...oh boy.

The floodgates are about to open...

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