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#1031 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Terminator » 678 weeks ago
The biggest problem that led to the death of TSCC was it's cost. I remember reading news articles months in advance as far back as 2007 when the series was first in production, talking about how much cost overruns were taking place and how much enormous debt Fox was going in producing the series, trying to keep some sort of production value comparable to T2 (they never did that). The series was originally supposed to premiere in 2007, but the cost overruns, production delays, and Fox not been "stunned" by the series they were banking so much on, led to it being pushed back.
When it premiered, I wasn't stunned by it either. I thought it was an okay TV series adaption. But I gave it a shot, because let's face it shows of film-to-TV adaptation, such as "Highlander: The Series" or "Stargate: SG-1" started very slow to, and turned into some of the finest fantasy television series of their generation.
I thought TSCC had a chance. And it did. It got better and better, and the character development of Headey's Connor just got better and better and "sexier" (I am totally into those kinda chicks, I gotta be honest. Women that can give me a sword-for-sword type battle personality-wise = pure hotness).
I loved the back-and-forth weird ass love angle between John and Summer Glau's terminator. Something so odd about it, but it was obvious he had feelings her "it" (or her?), and she was having some Alex J. Murphy/Robocop-isms of remembering what emotion was strictly for John. Other than Sarah being overly protective, it was a shame that weird angle wasn't pursued further, considering a terminator is supposed to be emotionless, and assuming "the parts" work. Regardless it was sadly dropped.
Wasn't nuts about Shirley Manson's T-1000 early on, but she became more and more fascinating as time went by. Especially by the series finale. Loved the 'Derek Reese' character, because I thought it created a crazy ass dynamic between Sarah and her past with Kyle. I thought they were going to pursue a love angle with them if it wasn't for Sarah being so, frankly, hateful towards him. But I think it was because of Kyle being the only man she ever loved... she didn't want to go there again and carry the death of another Reese on her head.
Regardless it was a show that got better and better, but I just knew it was never going to make the trip to being revived on SyFy. No way. The production was immense even for Fox, and it was TSCC's enormous cost that led to Fox pulling the plug, not it's ratings. The ratings were 'okay' for any other action series, but because of that pricetag they just didn't want anymore, and almost shitcanned the series before the pilot ever even aired. We're lucky we got the season-and-a-half that we did. At one point the cost overruns were so bad, that Fox was considering just condensing down the pilot to a one-off 2-hour TV movie just to try to air 'something', and because of some contractual deal with Warner Bros. were forced to go ahead with at least Season 1. They couldn't back out and they wanted to -- badly.
In the end, Fox never really wanted the series after that. It was 'the bastard' of the network, and was on life support from that point forward.
Years later, I can't remember where I read the article, but Fox regretted cancelling the series. Their hour-long dramas have been in decline ratings-wise so badly, that that is the reason Fox decided to revive "24" for a 9th season next year. Based on current ratings, TSCC would be a 'hit' today on Fox, considering Fox's biggest scripted series last year was "The Following" which pretty much averages the same ratings as TSCC, and I don't think the cost is that much different. 24 in Season 8, at it's lowest point in it's ratings existence, still got 2 million more viewers than anything on Fox (other than Idol).
#1032 Re: Guns N' Roses » Billy Corgan wants to work with Axl » 678 weeks ago
Cool quotes.
The thing that gets me, back in the day all the alternative rock bands that supposedly hated GN'R are now coming out admitting they're fans. From Pearl Jam to Janes Addiction to Billy Corgan.
Everybody always knew they were. I think alot of them were just confused by Axl. I think in hind-sight it makes perfect sense. Axl was the full-embodiment of what Kurt would've been, had he finally embraced his rock star status. The same brooding, mis-understood guy, wants to party some days, wants to cry others, wants to destroy the next, wants to commit suicide the next, the big difference was the party thing, and acceptance of society. I don't think Axl became THAT guy until the business disillusioned him. The grunge/alt guys were already disillusioned and commenting on that, something it took Axl awhile to get to imo.
But yeah, I think Vedder & McCready are fans, Corgan, Janes Addiction has been there for awhile, Cornell came out and admitted that they took shit but were totally jealous and stoked to be on that tour with GN'R and were disappointed how it turned out, all of Alice In Chains had been fans for years so much to building their band off of GN'R (Alice N' Chainz), and there was a pretty strong rumor and I could swear a news article where Courtney admitted Kurt had a copy of AFD secretly, and was a fan initially, but would never admit to it.
I think GN'R had a FAR bigger influence on that era, and of course later on, than they were ever given credit for, because Axl decided to take them into the opposite direction, and instead of the AFD band recording their Facelift/Nevermind in 1991, they turned around and tried to become the 1974-76 Stones.
#1033 Re: Guns N' Roses » 11-21-2012 The Joint, Las Vegas (Being filmed in 3D) » 678 weeks ago
I just don't understand how Whitesnake can put out live shit like 3 times a year, ad naseum, but with GN'R... this cocksucker still isn't out. And based on the snippets, Axl vocally ain't that good. Maybe that was the hesistation?
#1034 Re: Guns N' Roses » In light of the increased political correctness (one in a mil) » 678 weeks ago
I was sitting here thinking of the NFL ""Redskins" debacle and thought of one in a million. It may very well be in my top 3 of favorite GnR songs..but I'm not sure I could comfortably play it (let alone sing along to it) in public. Thoughts?
Oh and if the Redskins change their name to the Washington Bravehearts... they should just close the place.
#1035 Re: Guns N' Roses » In light of the increased political correctness (one in a mil) » 678 weeks ago
I never in my life used the word nigger (I was always taught it was a horrible thing to do), but lately i've been saying it alot of debates n' stuff like "matter of fact", and been surprised that the black men and women in attendence have no reaction when I do it, but when others do it, they get uncomfortable.
Are they scared of me? Maybe I just say it with class or something, I don't know. Either way, it got me thinking about Axl, and how much power a stupid fucking word has.
Then I thought back to how BADLY Axl fucked that whole situation up. If Axl would've come out from day one and said it was art, and he was writing from the perspective of a "scared midwest white boy coming to a scary city, and exposing his prejudices" and really drove that home, I wonder if he would've gotten the shit he got.
Instead he cocked a pompous attitude, had 25 different reasons why he said that and faggots, and just came across more and more like a completely lost little boy that just said it to piss people off.... it worked.
In hindsight though... it might be lyrically one of his most poignant moments. His most honest moment in his whole career. This is Axl Rose, being Kurt Cobain, before Kurt, or Eddie Vedder before Eddie.
And when you think about it that way... Axl had bigger balls than any of those dudes. He was being BRUTALLY honest, and crossed a line even they wouldn't cross for dollars. If GN'R hadn't of been as big as they were with such a strong white fanbase, it might've buried any other band at the time forever.
#1036 Re: Guns N' Roses » Axl Topps trading cards - Signed? Maybe. » 678 weeks ago
Yeah I don't get it either. If fans can get in touch with Beta or Fernando in literally seconds, just call Axl's housekeeper, dah I mean manager, and drop a price, say who you are or do whatever professional ball cupping you've got to do, send it certified mail or personally deliver it, get Axl to sign them, and what the fuck ever.
Cool cards. Don't know if there are a variety, but i'd probably kill someone for a Rebel Flag jacketed Axl from 1992 on a Topps card signed. Oh yeah.
#1037 Re: Guns N' Roses » Update from Fernando » 678 weeks ago
Will wrote:tejastech08 wrote:That was pathetic.
Why? Would you prefer no communication at all like we've endured in the past for literally years on end?
Actually, yes I would prefer that.
This, thank you.
Fernando dropping a line to say nothing, considering Axl has a Twitter. In 2013, unless Axl is deep in a bunker somewhere with iodine pills, listening to Art Bell and Alex Jones, surrounded by guns... I think the guy can Tweet every so often to his fans considering it is HIS FUCKING BAND.
#1038 Re: Guns N' Roses » WTTJ used in reality TV Show GOLD RUSH commercial » 678 weeks ago
Yeah, but Axl didn't bomb the Black Hawk Down deal because of the movie. Axl bombed it, because he specifically wanted to use the re-recorded Jungle for it, to cut Slash & Duff out of royalties and they balked. Then he walked.
Or so I remember. But to really ruin everyone's day, according to the original deal, Axl still has full say over HOW the license is used. He just doesn't make any money off of it for the next 20 years I believe.
Which means he greenlit this. Ugh.
#1039 Re: Guns N' Roses » Ideas for new GNR songs, performed live by Ron » 678 weeks ago
And supposedly little jams like this, DJ's been playing around with too, as well as Dizzy fucking around on piano.
And umm... why are we not working? These guys are wanting to write music.
Honestly anymore? I look at the shittastic state of the music industry, and I think Axl had it alot easier than he ever thought. I don't see Axl having the know-how or ego to deal with new GN'R songs being posted on SoundCloud before there release. I don't think Axl likes the idea of releasing a GN'R album through a small label or on BandCamp.com
I think it scares him, and I think with the state of the world, his personality... I don't know if he has anything else left to say. Axl is a passionate guy who has to be aggitated to write. Where's the conflict in his life? He said all of that on Chinese. What else is there to talk about? 19 year old hookers, good dumps, and nice cigars?
The guy will not be David Coverdale, finding new and inventive ways to write the same love song for 30 years, and being damn good at it. I think more and more, Axl's done.
#1040 Re: Guns N' Roses » Interview With Dizzy Reed » 678 weeks ago
You know, when we use the, "everybody in the world..." argument... Everybody in the world couldn't give a shit, and I could care less about what 99% of them think. It's like any of my favorite bands, films, actors... People in the media and people in general take pot shots at them for years, until it's suddenly "cool" to be a fan (like Mickey Rourke... I was a fan from when he was Motorcycle Boy even through the Exit In Red days, damn it! I never lost faith in his abilities, even when everyone else did and he became a punchline) and not only do they become fans, they suddenly become purists. Who gives a shit what anyone thinks. I'm glad he didn't go to the R&RHF. I'm sure he was making a point by not showing up and not allowing anyone else to dictate his place in rock history, past or present, or his band, or give those people any kind of credibility by attending their event. So when anyone uses "the world doesn't see them as [whatever], I roll my eyes and think: "Whatever, dude." You guys don't give a shit when people look down on any of the Snakepit albums that you like, or care what people think about a song or other artist you like. Same here. These tail chasing arguments about this being a band or what have you are really pointless now. And "world view" is completely subjective.
If the original line up is going to reunite for a one off show, do it in an old LA club for free.
Sorry for the rant, my GN'R discussions have been bottled up for a while
The world view is completely subjective? On Guns N' Roses? The only fucking thing they ever did was from 1987-1993.
So if I buy enough stock, and eventually become a majority stock holder, and I buy the rights to a name, and call my tin shack "Wal-Mart".... does it make it a Wal-Mart?
