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#10881 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 892 weeks ago
PearlJam wasn't a fad. And there was no "steady decline." They decided, as a band, to retreat out of the mainstream, not make videos, or release commercial singles after 1993 and they still sold a shitload of albums and held very, very successful tours... That doesn't consist of half empty venues.
I still hear music from PJ on MODERN radio and not just from one of their albums. I can't say the same for GNR. Sorry, but trying to diminish a band who has been successful critically and finacially after deliberately walking away from the mainstream a decade after GNR became irrelevant is lame and not true.
#10882 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 892 weeks ago
If you think GNR is as big or bigger than PJ then you're not really facing the truth. This isn't 1991. GNR hasn't been relevant since then. PJ has. The name only helps with the few, maybe 5-10 thousand people (and that's being very genrous), who actually give a shit enough to care about any incarnation of GNR in the States to buy the album just for the name or Axl. Recognizing a name and being a fan are two different things. No Linkin Park or Fergie fans were buying this album out of curiosity. And like war said, the people following this fiasco who actually care about Axl using the name didn't buy the album in the first place, as Buzz and Bono are examples.
Maybe, just maybe, the majority of people who bought the album actually liked the songs they heard, which made them buy the album. But of course that would mean Axl actually accomplished something...
The only people who care about legacy are you guys.
#10883 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 892 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Seriously? Robin was the problem in not promoting the album? Give me a break.
No shit. Finck would have wrote one sentence on his Twitter page and labeled it poetry. Ten people would have drooled and no one else would have cared.
I do agree that his departure likely threw Axl for a loop(especially with that quick NIN release), but he had almost a year to figure out something in a post Finck era. Even without a replacement, a promo blitz could have still occurred. While I would have preferred as many members of the 2001 line up as possible be involved post release and 2000-08 departures did create an obstacle of trying to market it as an actual band, Finck wasn't a "deal breaker".
Slash leaving? Izzy leaving? Duff leaving? Buckethead leaving? Deal breakers.
Finck leaving? Wake me up when there's news.
No one ever thought he was trying to work something out with Robin, ala Buckethead up until the last minute? Seeing Axl's reaction the first time Robin left, and Bucket's, I think Finck was a deal breaker. No matter what anyones feeling are about Robin he was pretty obviously an important part of the band and to Axl. There is no telling what was planned and had to be scraped.
And my post was mainly about doing promo with the band: shows and shit. Maybe I wasn't straight forward enough.
And if you're truly saying only "internet idiots" were responsible for the opening 200,000, then PJ's album should have been 500,000. They have a much bigger fanbase than GNR.
It's nice to see how important it is for some of you to paint everything Axl does as a failure. There just has to be a conspiracy or some negative explanation or slant to everything he does. 
#10884 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 892 weeks ago
Did you break out the weed and Dark Side Of The Moon yet? 
Dead Girl was a pretty solid indie horror. I have no idea who played the Dead Girl but she was fantastic. Some truly disturbing, cringe-worthy moments. Not gory though. It couyld have done without the camp that popped up in the third act, which was pretty weak over all, but the first half of the movie was pretty solid.
#10885 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 892 weeks ago
That is interesting. I wonder if there's another username he uses.
As for the Better video, the fact it never came out, or any of those other singles, always said to me that he was giving up on CD and was putting his attention on the next album.
Robin was probably a bigger problem in promoting the album than he let on.
#10886 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 892 weeks ago
BB is probably still waiting for that Better video.
#10887 Re: The Garden » The 2009 NFL Season Thread » 893 weeks ago
Joe Montana couldn't win with the Bills.
That's cold!
What sucks is that they have a really good offense, but are at the mercy of their offensive line. People make a big deal about the Packers not having a line or The Steelers. My ass. Watch a Bills game.
#10888 Re: The Sunset Strip » A Nightmare on Elm Street: Introducing the New Freddy Krueger » 893 weeks ago
I thought the intro to the new F13 with Jason's mother was pretty f'n good. Too bad the movie didn't just end on that high note.
I remember the guy who directed Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning was preparing to do the F13th remake. And he's actually a very good director (check out his short film Rings that ties in The Ring with that awful Ring 2) and he was working with Andrew Kevin Walker (writer of Se7en) to write the remake in a "Henry: portrait of a serial killer" type vibe. Basically, it would be a more realistic Jason... Which I think would be a much more interesting idea.
This is why I like the path Samuel Bayer is taking Elm Street.
#10889 Re: The Garden » The 2009 NFL Season Thread » 893 weeks ago
And for the record, the press was trying to bait TO into saying something in that press conference, and they were pretty callous about it. For being pissed off for lousy play calls I think TO handled himself pretty well.
#10890 Re: The Garden » The 2009 NFL Season Thread » 893 weeks ago
Man, I am really starting to hate Sanchez... Or the media love for him. Jesus. I watched that game. The Jets can thank the bonehead rookie for fumbling 2 punts in the Jets 30 yard line and the fact that the Titans Wide outs forgot how to catch a pass in the 2nd half. 13 incomplete passes in a row (with 3 of those drops coming from the same receiver!) is ridiculous.
If it weren't for that The Jets would have been destroyed, especially in that second half when Sanchez played A-W-F-U-L. Though the media seems to be looking over that...
