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#11421 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 934 weeks ago
Reasons I think the album is flopping in the US:
1) He waited too long.
2) Not enough people liked the first single, which gave a bad taste for the rest of the album.
3) The average music buying public didn't really know much about the album (and the new band), or cared, because GNR didn't seem to care enough to promote it.
4) The band doesn't have a face or identity. Except for the few things they see and read on the net, VH1 and G4. Sadly, its not always good, and there has been no one from this band to give "their" story... Or show it really as a band.
I think the sales showed only the people who were really interested in this album bought it. He didn't crack anywhere near the demographics that matter. The above points show the reason for that. When it comes down to it, I just don't think anyone outide of us cared enough from what was presentd to them... Which was basically not a whole lot.
But it doesn't take away from the fact that the album rocks.
#11422 Re: Guns N' Roses » GnR Mention in "The Wrestler" trailer » 934 weeks ago
His entrance music to the ring is Welcome To The Jungle.
You want to see Marisa nekkid a lot, watch Before The Devil Knows Your Dead.
#11423 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 934 weeks ago
GNR obviously doesn't care what the album is doing, sales wise at least, so why should anyone else?
Really, for the fans on this board, the big deal for us is the other demos floating around out there. That's what I'm interested in. I've noticed a lot of the negativity and fights stem from the people wanting a reunion. It seems to me anyone who says anything positive about the album/future of this band is jumped because anything positive is a slag or threat against the possibility of a reunion. I'm really numb to the idea of a reunion, just because I don't think its real realistic to expect one. Just too much bullshit to get around from all sides.
Some of you cats just need to calm down.:cool:
#11424 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 935 weeks ago
Yeah, Axl knows how to ruin a good thing. He's a master at it.
#11425 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Album is Kickass and I want a tour please! » 935 weeks ago
Robin was a fantastic compliment to Buckethead. They might have hated each other, but Axl knew what he was doing there. Without both of them being in the band, Axl's just going to have to reconstruct a new guitar wing of the band and go for another sound. As CD showed, Ron just doesn't fit the Buckethead/Robin connection and sound. He feels like an outsider.
The only way I could be interested in a Bumblefoot lead GNR would be if there was someone completely different and out going on guitar. Like Dave Navarro.
One other thing, the Robin hate still stems from the pro Slash sentiments. How any one can love the new band (or the old new band
) and hate Robin is completely ridiculous.
#11426 Re: Guns N' Roses » What song(s) have grown on you the most? » 935 weeks ago
Yeah, my favorite off the album is If The World, and the demo version was my least favorite of all the new songs.
TWAT has grown on me. I was hard on that track mostly because it was my favorite at one time, but the overproduction killed it for me. I still hate the cookie monster vocals in the chorus, but I hate it a lot less than I used to.
The lyrics in Sorry live up to its name. Except for the cool chorus and ending the lyrics are pretty lame and generic. I would say its the ballad version of Shotgun Blues.
#11427 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
misterID wrote:buzzsaw wrote:BH coming back isn't going to save it. He's on the album and it isn't helping. I get that some people love him, but the truth is Axl + Slash = GnR to the general public and no other guitar player is going to be able to fill that role. It may not be fair, but it is what it is.
The kids today really don't share your guys hard on for Slash and Axl re-teaming. And the world really isn't holding its breath for a reunion the way you guys might think. Bucket was growing a GNR fanbase of his own. Axl only needs Slash for a nostalgia trip. Not to be successful. The truth is Axl found lightning in a bottle twice and he blew it.
That must be why 16 year old kids run around in their Guns N' Roses t-shirts, their Axl shirts, their Slash shirts, blasting AFD, and putting GN'R in the same beloved category as the 'throwback 90s rock' fav's with Nirvana & Metallica.
Even when the 2002 VMA performance happened, the kids were like - "who the fuck is that?" - and you couldn't say Guns N' Roses, because well, that's not really true.
A reunion would be MASSIVE. Stadiums would be sold out, GN'R would probably get hundreds of millions, yep that's right, HUNDREDS of millions thrown at them, through various sources pooling together, and the crowds would be massive, ready, and varied in ages from probably 10-80.
Granted that buzz wouldn't last past the first couple of legs, but the anticipation of it's arrangment and launch would make the wait for CD, seem like setting the microwave for 3 minutes.
Oh, how silly of me... I forgot about all those crowds of teenagers wearing GNR t-shirts, while blasting AFD out of their 'boom boxes' I have to fight through at the mall. 
10 to 80 year olds are dying for a reunion? Really? 
From all this talk of being fans of reality from you guys, I sure don't see any in your posts.

#11428 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
I don't see any magic single off CD boosting its sales. I was expecting it would do around 200,000-250,000, which ain't bad, but it aint spectacluar enough to help the album be a huge seller, either.
I'll wait until after christmas to give it a final verdict. I think it'll limp to a million copies world wide... Hopefully.
#11429 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy UNDER 300,000 copies sold first week? » 936 weeks ago
Yeah, well with all that, it would still just be a nostalgia trip. A reunion would be a big deal for a certain amount of people, not everyone feels the way you do.
And for what its worth, who they were when they made AFD is long gone. Even if they got back together you wouldn't get that same "formula" that fans are drooling for them to replicate. The UYI albums showed that. CD shows that. A reunion would give you the same thing every other big band "reunion" (insert band name here) who get back together in middleage give -- the same thing that we've seen with every reunion in the last 15 years: its not the same, its usually a disappointment album wise and creatively, but damn its good to see them on stage again... Because of nostalgia.
Axl can still be successful in GNR without Slash.
#11430 Re: Guns N' Roses » bumblefoot checks in with gnrevolution » 936 weeks ago
I want to ask everything he's not allowed to talk about 
