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#17591 Re: The Garden » Obama takes lead in polls » 946 weeks ago

The debates will certaintly be interesting this year. Both candidates walk in having to do well.


And the thing is, BOTH did great speeches during their acceptance for the party conventions.


Watching these two guys is gonna be riveting imo.

#17592 Re: The Garden » Iranian president takes Obama up on offer » 946 weeks ago

And people think George Bush is an idiot in charge of a country.



Jeezus...

#17593 Re: The Garden » Palin Warns Against 'Second Holocaust' by Ahmadinejad » 946 weeks ago

Umm how is it 'partisan' to have a Republican & Democrat appear together?

#17594 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses on Universal Music Group Release List » 946 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

Yeah, I've been staring at the same situation since 2001 and have been listening to the same bullshit reunion theories ever since.

It's a bunch of old school fans who are holding onto an unrealistic hope that something will happen to fulfill a fantasy, without looking at the reality of the situation. Since this new line up has formed every little thing that happens in the GNR world is viewed upon (by the same people, over and over) somehow points to a reunion, no matter how ridiculous. Been there, done that a thousand times over. There is nothing at all that points to a reunion, only wishful thinking.

And The Replacements vs GNR debate is lame.

But Tommy's Bass riffs in Chinese Democracy fucking owns!:mosh:

Actually you're wrong bro. Take it from someone who used to say EXACTLY what YOU just said a thousand times over.


For the first time ever there's actual evidence to support a theory for a GN'R reunion being the works. The first time - EVER. It might be wishful thinking, but to say right now out there, there's nothing at all that points to a reunion is narrow minded.

I'd go so far to say there's more that points to a reunion, then there is evidence that points to CD actually getting released.

#17595 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stinson bailed? NME rumor. » 946 weeks ago

And see that's another issue Scab. Alot of us have always felt that GN'R would not tour to support CD.

So what's the point?

I understand that CD could still sell well, without a tour, but Universal aren't stupid either. They are going to want to maximize profits for this, especially an 800-pound gorilla like CD. If their market people say "I think the public will meet CD with apprehension because it's a new band", then it's not far-fetched at all for Universal to turn around and say, we have the album, but we want a reunion first before we'll release it, because we want to make the most money possible.

I think Axl's reached a point where his name alone, and the name 'Chinese Democracy' just ain't enough to get it done. Maybe in 2002, but not now.

#17596 Re: Guns N' Roses » Democracy not eligible for Billboard 200? » 946 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

I think the midnight madness with the Illusions release would be comparable to an 'exclusive' release for CD.

you gotta be kidding...there is nowhere the level of excitement and anticiaption that there was leading up the the UYI release

That's not what i'm saying. The actual ACT of a midnight sale at the store imo would be comparable to an exclusive store release.

#17597 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Album That Never Was » 946 weeks ago

I don't know if a reunion can happen.  Not unless Slash & Duff are drinking and drugging again and are too wasted to remember the fact that they signed away all their rights to the GnR name and they'd basically be working as Axl's hired hands (same with Izzy & Steven).  And that Axl would get the lion share of the profits.   They'd be crazy to do a reunion.  Not unless Axl made GnR and equal partnership again and signed a contract that he won't show up 2 hours late for shows.  I'd love to see it happen.  But I think there's no way.  That's what kept the Beatles from reuniting.  Too many lawyers involved and Paul's ego got out of control.

Never underestimate the power of money... especially when it concerns Slash. There's been plenty of legendary bands before them that have "co-existed" with each other as bandmates, because the money is huge and steadily there, such as The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Van Halen, Motley Crue, etc.

Even though Axl Rose is the one of the few people in the business that is not motivated by money in any way, I still think he could be enticed, especially if enough time as passed that he's kindler, gentler, and more forgiving of the old guys.

But if they look at it like they're Axl's "hired Guns", then it'll never get off the ground, and it won't be Axl's fault. They all would have to meet in the middle and compromise. You can't rewrite history, but maybe you can learn from it.

I think you're also underestimating the generosity of Axl. He doesn't have to give up anything when it concerns GN'R. Just enter a new business arrangment, that gives them all equal shares, with possibly a lower share for Axl, because he retains the rights to the name - GUNS N ROSES.

I don't think these guys will be The Beatles. Because Paul McCartney didn't continue touring with a new band called The Beatles. Slash & Duff will have to "take it or leave it" in some ways, because they know Axl can and will go on with GN'R with a different lineup.

Basically, I'd just like to hear more new music from Axl.  I don't care what name he uses, just release the stuff.  It's a great loss that he's basically been inactive for the last 14 years and wasted the prime of his career.  He's a talented lyricist & amazing performer and it sucks that he's been more or less retired since 1994.  It would be like Mick Jagger calling it quits after the Stones released "Let It Bleed" in 1969.

I would to. But I see no problem in the future of GN'R being the past. Going back to the old days, both as a band and with a sound. Bands like Metallica still tour, with new albums, but primarily play their old hits. Which is pretty much what Guns does now, except with different players.

If Axl lets 2008 go by without releasing Chinese Democracy I don't know if it'll ever come out.   If I was his manager, I'd advise him to drop the Guns n Roses name & just clean out the vaults.  Release an industrial album (2000 Intentions or I guess at this point it would need to be renamed 2010 Intentions) and put out the epics on Chinese Democracy.

If it don't come out in 2008, its ain't ever coming out.

As far as touring if he really wants to be in the biggest band in the world again and fill up arenas & stadiums the only way he can do that is by reuniting the original group.

He doesn't want that apparently. I watched the man and new GN'R come out and perform a full set in front of a lackluster crowd of only 3500 people in an arena.

In an almost Izzy-sense, I think Axl likes the smaller crowd these days with his extreme reclusiveness.

 

I think Slash & Duff would definitely sign on if Axl would just call off the dogs (his team of lawyers).  And what else to Izzy and Steven have to do at this point?  The ball, as always, is in Axl's court.  He better hurry before Velvet Revolver finds a new lead singer.

What "dogs"? Izzy has already been welcomed into the fold, remember 2006? And it's been alluded to that had he wanted to be there full time, he would've been allowed. Izzy doesn't want to be. Which is why I think, even if a reunion happened, Izzy would do a few months, the "big shows", and then suddenly Richard Fortus would be back on rhythm along side Slash & Duff.

Steven ain't coming back. No way, no how. I think the most recent drug arrest clinched that. Matt... it could go one way or another really. Matt could've made that 'bomb shelter' statement to try and throw the hounds off the trail, or he could've truely meant that he doesn't think he'll be apart of a reunion. If the latter is the case, Frank Ferrer will be on drums.

If a reunion is happening, it's already been worked out.

I do find it extremely coincidental that VR is STILL looking for a new singer.

Come on, folks. This is easy.

I remember reading an announcement by VR saying they found their new singer, and they think everyone will be really surprised who it is..   And said that they would announce it the following week.

This was like..3-4 months ago. Still no word.
Now they act like they never said that.

Not to mention Sorum saying something along the lines of, "Slash, Duff and Axl could be in a bomb shelter somewhere discussing a reunion and I wouldn't know a thing about it.", implying he most likely wouldn't be involved in a reunion.

Duff saying things like it would be awesome to work with Axl again.

Slash complimenting/praising Chinese Democracy and Axl. If Slash has truly heard Chinese Democracy, not the leaks, he may be possibly hanging out with the GNR camp right now.

Everyone has pretty much dropped out of GNR except Axl, Dizzy, BBF, and maybe Tommy...

The slots are available/open.

It would be a big paycheck for everyone involved. They would be crazy not to do it.

And with Azoff at the helm, it seems like it ties together...

Not to mention all the crazy rumors this last year. Axl & Slash, POSSIBLY at the same hotel in NYC. The GN'R camp is SUPER quiet, as always, but the strange thing is VR is almost Axl-esque quiet too. Very unlike them.

Scott Weiland claiming the contracts are waiting to be signed, and that they left the money on the table back in 2006 for a reunion. Duff denied both allegations, but.... hmm... how strange.

And that of course isn't counting all the obvious, like the buttkissing, GN'R without a lead guitarist & bassist and VR without a lead singer, and the fact "the king of reunions" is suddenly GNR's manager.

#17598 Re: The Garden » Obama takes lead in polls » 946 weeks ago

Snow is right, Obama is getting the lead back all over the place.

#17599 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Shield » 946 weeks ago

Tommie wrote:

He was in the beginning of season 3.  Him and Shane had a big fight, then he crashed his car.  Couldnt remember everything that happened that night. 

I didnt know anderson was the lead on Law & Order... is it new this season?  I may have to check in on that.

Yes, it's the upcoming season. After Fox's short-lived "K-Ville" was cancelled last winter, Anderson signed on to "L&O" to replace long-timer Jesse Martin this fall.

#17600 Re: Guns N' Roses » Democracy not eligible for Billboard 200? » 946 weeks ago

I think the midnight madness with the Illusions release would be comparable to an 'exclusive' release for CD.

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