You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#1941 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR played Acoustic gig for Tommy Hilfiger in CA » 691 weeks ago
Axl looks pretty good in that first pic.
#1942 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF » 691 weeks ago
That's his main faults. Being late for shows, rehearsals. Sometimes throwing a hissy fit at inappropriate moments. You could usually expect him to show up and put on a great show. You could always depend on him to go in the studio and create magic. With patience of course. He was always loyal to the band, both in the press and in private. There was no "regime", but he had an insatiable need for doing his own thing.
Axl was always late when he wasn't no-showing after AFD. That wasn't an issue before that. Don't make it sound like he's always been that way; he wasn't and that was a problem for the band.
No, he was always good at cruising like that. But just because he was lucky to live all those times he passed over doesn't mean that's not a problem or some non issue for the band. And if he can't handle prolonged down times that's his problem too. He's not exactly being asked the world here. Come in, do some tracks, go home. Wait for Axl to do his thing. That's the way it had always been done. Suddenly that's a problem.
I assume "he" in the first part is Slash. He handled the prolonged downtime by doing his own thing...that's why Snakepit came along. He'd have much rather gone on doing GnR records, but Axl wasn't interested at the time. He still didn't leave GnR until it was apparent it was going to turn into what it ended up turning into. Read Duff's book and you'll see this was an issue for him too, so don't make it out as a Slash problem. They were ready; Axl wasn't. And no, that's NOT always the way it had been done. AFD was not recorded that way. UYI started it, but at least Axl showed up eventually for the sessions. All the post UYI were Axl showing up at 4 AM wondering where everyone was to record with him.
Yes, Axl is late as a motherfucker. But he never "laid down the law" in most band issues. He praised some of Slash tapes back then and now. Problem was Slash didn't want to play ball. Wanted to use the situation to reclaim a position in the band. Wanted to keep coming in for a few quick sessions and be done with it. Being asked to try out some OMG stuff does not really cut it as irrevocable musical differences. Duff never had problems with Axl's material. Yet these are cited as valid reasons to throw everything on the boat.
What? Never laid down the law? He took control of the band name, then quit the band and told the others they'd have to join his band of the same name. WTF are you talking about never laid down the law...even if that was the ONLY time (which it wasn't), that's enough right there to justify playing hardball to get some control back. The bigger problem was that Slash waited too long to do it and there was no control for him to get back at that point. I don't think you have any understanding of what happened after 1991 with this band...your version is so wildly inaccurate it's hard to even try to have a conversation with you about it.
#1943 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R at Rocklahoma in May » 691 weeks ago
Did they ever post the numbers for Vegas? I'd be curious to see what the numbers say for those shows. It's hard to compare from different venues, but it didn't look like there were many more people at the GnR show in Vegas than there was at the Slash show in Atlanta.
#1944 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » SLASH 'Wasn't Disappointed' By AXL ROSE's Decision To Skip RnRHoF » 691 weeks ago
Did you really say "what were Axl's faults really?" and then limit them to being late and blowing up now and then? Wow.
I can't believe any sane person really believes any of what you said in your rant. No show was ever cancelled because Slash wasn't there or couldn't play. No record delays happened because Slash wasn't there or couldn't play. That's what he lived for...it was the down times that he struggled with, not the few times things were supposed to happen.
#1945 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 691 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:I dunno - I'm not sure the real reason has ever been uncovered.
I mean people give you an "Axl's nuts" answer - but - from 1987-1991 he put out 4 albums worth of songs - despite being "nuts" then with his wives and the tour dramas and all that bullshit. So what - he got more nuts in 2004 than he was in 1994? Doesn't seem right to me.
Axl seemed to say that Slash/Duff damaged his confidence is song writing...which is an interesting idea...regardless of blame it's interesting he admitted there's been issues on that front. But I'd be curious to know what else the problems are.
As Buzz said, this topic has been beaten to death but what the hell else do we have to discuss. I think the overall excuse would be the lack of drive and determination. When GNR first hit the scene they were out to make a name for themselves and they became one of the biggest bands in the world at the time. Too much success too soon seemed to derail things a bit, leading to the breakup. Now you would think, and I do, that Axl would have been determined to prove he could succeed with an entire new lineup of GNR. I do think he had that drive in the beginning, at least in some aspects. Maybe not as strong as it was in the early days, but his pride was still on the line. But when things began to fall apart and members started leaving it was almost as if a defeatist attitude was adopted. Couple that with the legal issues and problems with the record company, it all adds up to not being able to or not wanting to release new music.
At least, that's my take on the situation.
I think that's a lot of it. I also think he was being somewhat honest in his reference to Slash (specifically) and Duff...not so much that it damaged his confidence per se, but he had a winning formula that inspired him and he lost all of it (Izzy too). I don't think Slash and Duff were writing all-time great songs by themselves, but they brought something to the songs Axl had that made them special and Axl brought something to Slash and Duff's ideas that made them special. He can't recreate it and for whatever reason nobody else has inspired him to the point that he was in the past. Some of that could stem from general frustration about everything that has happened the past 20 years...I mean I have to believe if we're disappointed that somewhere deep inside Axl is too even if he'd never admit it. I think in many ways it all circles together; then you add in his fluctuating mental state and it's a recipe for the disaster (relatively speaking) that we have now.
Here's the part I struggle with: if he likes the new(est) band so much (and it sure seems like he does), why can't he overcome the lack of confidence or whatever it is to come up with new material? I understand that there are challenges with the record company, but if he drops a killer modern rock album with a GnR flare to it on them, they're going to release it eventually. If he wants to create and the record company is the issue, dissolve GnR and write some stuff with DJ or whoever and release it as a solo album. There are just parts of what he claims that just don't add up.
#1946 Re: The Sunset Strip » Daily Hot Celebrity Piece of Ass Pic of the Day Thread » 691 weeks ago
Her lips were moving?
#1947 Re: The Garden » 10 years in a basement for $10 million, what would you take with you? » 691 weeks ago
Sadly I'd choose the internet over the girl.
#1948 Re: Guns N' Roses » BUMBLEFOOT Says Waiting For A New GUNS N' ROSES Album To Get Done Is ' » 691 weeks ago
I don't think you really have to wonder at all...if anything the reasons why have been beaten to death.
#1949 Re: Guns N' Roses » What do you pay for GNR shows in the USA? » 691 weeks ago
I paid somewhere around $50 for the tickets in Vegas. I would pay $199 if there was something else included, but not just for the ticket.
#1950 Re: The Garden » 10 years in a basement for $10 million, what would you take with you? » 691 weeks ago
Pretty easy for me. I can probably live whatever is left of my life once I get out for the $5 Mil, so I'll go that route.
Kitchen - 6 pts
Computer - 6 pts
Internet - 16 pts
Hygene - 3 pts
Medical - 2 pts
Skylight - 2 pts
If I were to take the 18 year old, I'd need the gun too for when I got sick of her attitude.
