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#2241 Re: Guns N' Roses » LARS ULRICH Holding Up Release of GNR 'Better' Video? » 930 weeks ago

I think they categorize the stations as active rock and mainstream rock stations (see below) etc., so they get different charts.


Active rock is a radio format used by many commercial radio stations across Canada and the United States. Active rock plays current rock artists with a mix of classic rock songs.


Format background
An active rock station may include songs by known and popular artists such as Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, and AC/DC in its playlist, whereas a modern rock station would not. Conversely, unlike classic rock stations, an active rock station also plays music by popular current and new rock artists.

Similar to active rock stations, mainstream rock stations play current rock music, but concentrate more on classic rock than active rock stations do.

A pioneering station of this format in the late 1980s was WIYY "98Rock" in Baltimore, Maryland. Other early adopters of this format by the beginning of the 1990s include stations KISS "99.5 KISS Rocks" in San Antonio, TX, WAAF in Boston, Massachusetts, WXTB "98Rock" in Tampa, Florida and KEGL, "97.1 The Eagle ", in Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas. Satellite radio channels include XM's Squizz and Sirius's Octane.


Active Rock Airplay chart
Active Rock Airplay Chart is a chart that compiles the current hits on Active Rock radio stations and is used as a component for the Billboard Mainstream Rock chart. This chart is exclusive to R&R, with forty positions on this chart and it is solely based on radio airplay. 62 Active Rock radio stations are electronically monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week by Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems. Songs are ranked by a calculation of the total number of spins per week with its "audience impression", which is based upon exact times of airplay and each station's Arbitron listener data.

Songs receiving the greatest growth will receive a "bullet", although there are tracks that will also get bullets if the loss in detections doesn't exceed the percentage of downtime from a monitored station. "Airpower" awards are issued to songs that appear on the top 20 of both the airplay and audience chart for the first time, while the "greatest gainer" award is given to song with the largest increase in detections. A song with six or more spins in its first week is awarded an "airplay add". If a song is tied for the most spins in the same week, the one with the biggest increase that previous week will rank higher, but if both songs show the same amount of spins regardless of detection the song that is being played at more stations is ranked higher. Songs that fall below the top 20 and have been on the chart after 26 weeks are removed and go to recurrent status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_rock

Mainstream rock (sometimes called Heritage Rock) is a radio format used by many commercial radio stations in the United States and Canada.


Format background
Mainstream rock stations are between classic rock and active rock on the programming spectrum, in that they play more classic rock than active rock stations, but play more modern rock than classic rock stations. In many ways, mainstream rock is a successor to the widespread album-oriented rock (AOR) format created in the 1970s.

As of 2008[update], examples of mainstream rock stations in terrestrial radio include WLUP in Chicago, IL, KRXQ 98 Rock in Sacramento, CA WEBN in Cincinnati, OH, WAPL in Appleton, WI, KZRR in Albuquerque, NM, KEZO in Omaha, NE, WDVE in Pittsburgh PA, WHJY in Providence, RI, KSQY in Rapid City, SD, WAQY in Springfield, MA, KSHE in St. Louis, and KZOZ in San Luis Obispo, CA. Most have a very long heritage that dates back to the 1970s as AOR stations, which is why several trades like Billboard and R&R will refer these stations as "Heritage Rock.".


Rock Airplay chart
Rock Airplay Chart is a chart that compiles the current hits on Rock radio stations and is reflected as a component in Billboard's Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. The Rock Airplay chart is exclusive to R&R, with thirty positions on this chart and it is solely based on radio airplay. 24 Rock radio stations are electronically monitored 24 hours a day, seven days a week by Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems. Songs are ranked by a calculation of the total number of spins per week with its "audience impression", which is based upon exact times of airplay and each station's Arbitron listener data.

Songs receiving the greatest growth will receive a "bullet", although there are tracks that will also get bullets if the loss in detections doesn't exceed the percentage of downtime from a monitored station. "Airpower" awards are issued to songs that appear on the top 20 of both the airplay and audience chart for the first time, while the "greatest gainer" award is given to song with the largest increase in detections. A song with six or more spins in its first week is awarded an "airplay add". If a song is tied for the most spins in the same week, the one with the biggest increase that previous week will rank higher, but if both songs show the same amount of spins regardless of detection the song that is being played at more stations is ranked higher. Songs that fall below the top 20 and have been on the chart after 26 weeks are removed and go to recurrent status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_rock

#2242 Re: Guns N' Roses » LARS ULRICH Holding Up Release of GNR 'Better' Video? » 930 weeks ago

starsko wrote:
Bright Eyes 2005 wrote:

Well Better and Chinese Democracy had increased spins on the Mainstream Rock Chart.  Better moved up to #15 from #18, and CD held firm at #8.  In the drop down window, select "Mainstream Rock".

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=253077

Media Base tells a different story. Better is not really picking up (#19) and Chinese Democracy is out of the top 20:

http://www.mediabase.com/mmrweb/insider … ar=y&dpt=n

Yours is the active rock Chart, BE's is the Mainstream rock Chart.

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=253077

Format: Active Rock    Last Update: 1/7/2009 12:59:00 AM 
Rank  Mediabase Sortable Stats™  Spins 
lw TW    Artist Title Label TW lw Move

19  19     GUNS N' ROSES  Better  Geffen/Interscope  759  704  55 

24  24     GUNS N' ROSES  Chinese Democracy  Geffen/Interscope  582  589  -7 



Format: Mainstream Rock    Last Update: 1/7/2009 3:58:00 AM 
Rank  Mediabase Sortable Stats™  Spins 
lw TW    Artist Title Label TW lw Move

8  8     GUNS N' ROSES  Chinese Democracy  Geffen/Interscope  263  253  10 

18  15    GUNS N' ROSES  Better  Geffen/Interscope  123  106  17

#2243 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Velvet Revolver Still Mulling New Frontman » 931 weeks ago

I don't think it's over. Finding a great singer (after working with Axl Rose) is very tough. We all know how lot time it took for The Project to find Scott Weiland. Now they're in the same situation, with another bad singer behaviour experience. I still have the thought they're waiting for Lenny, but maybe they're really looking for someone, just can't find him. As Slash wrote in his book about the (first) singer search, when they were trying to find someone new and unknown, yet great guy. A friend of him told them it was impossible: there are very few guys in the whole business who'd be on their level as a musician and professional, so they can only find someone 'famous'.

#2245 Re: Guns N' Roses » Beating A Dead Horse » 931 weeks ago

Alright. I agree that the AC/DC-Wal-Mart deal was selling-out, but I think the same about the GN'R-BB deal. That's about money and not art or integrity. The only difference is that AC/DC's selling-ot was successful in every aspect and even above of that, while GN'R only got the money, but people didn't really buy the record.

I still don't get this new debate like Guns N' Roses would be some underground band. It's not underground, it's only disfunctional.

#2246 Re: Guns N' Roses » Beating A Dead Horse » 931 weeks ago

Give me a minute: so the Best Buy deal wasn't selling out?

#2247 Re: Guns N' Roses » Whats the opinion people in your life have on CD? » 931 weeks ago

war wrote:

i think twat sounds like illusion material also

TWAT has too much electronica to be a real UYI track. I think Street of Dreams and This I Love are typical UYI-era tracks, but even IRS and a shorter CITR (that's the Yesterdays of CD for me) could have been there.

#2248 Re: Guns N' Roses » Beating A Dead Horse » 931 weeks ago

The huge difference is that CD got more promo than any album in music history. It was hyped for a decade, and the band that had the same legendary name hadn't released new material for 17 years. When you look at all this, the sellings are bad. Not tragically bad, cause your point is true, a lot of people don't order online and don't drive hours to buy something they can easily download, but hey, BB's only for the US and the album isn't doing great on the rest of the world either. Because the world doesn't care about it. I have some colleagues, who are Guns N' Roses fans, they could buy the album in any store here in Hungary, but they haven't even bothered downloading it! It speaks volumes.

#2249 Re: The Garden » Anyone else losing interest? » 931 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

Its understandable if people lose interest. Everyone waited for Chinese Democracy, and we finally have it. Whether or not it lived up to expectations is beside the point. We have it. Its also understandable if old school fans are tired of a merry go round of musicians being labeled GNR.

My interest is in the community here and not the band. Sure, I'd like to hear more music from the vault but its not something I absolutely need...

Good post, James.

I have the same feelings. I follow GN'R's story, cause it's more like a soap opera than anything. You know, the same things happen again and again, some new storylines, but it continues in the good old, familiar patch. I can't say I'm too interested in what's left in Axl's vault. I know he surely has some amazing songs, but based on CD, there is no reason to wait for anything. The music isn't that good and he seems to be lacking motivation.

I'm not really interested in the reunion, either. It will never be the same magic, and things will tun out the same way it happened in th past. I don't know Axl, but I really feel sorry for his career. I think he could have done more and totally missed some prime years of his career. He's my favourite singer of all time, but I don't mind if he will never release anything again. I hope the other guys fom the classic and semi-classic line-up will continue in some form, together or alone, and make some good albums. I don't wait for earth-shattering music anymore. It can happen, though.

I was thinking bout leaving the online community many times. Not cause I flt offended or anything, but it takes a lot of my time. I quite enjoy the debates on the other hand, which sometimes get very passionate about, to tell the truth, unimportant subjects. Some of my friends are laughing every time they see me reading the forums. Anywa, I'm here cause I enjoy the community. When it ends, I'll be gone. It can happen tomorrow, in a years, or never. Who knows. But one thing is sure: if there wasn't GNREvo, I would have given up a long time ago. It's a great board, thanks for it! 22

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