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#31 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden Discussion (King Animal out NOW!) » 649 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:

Or PJ can get a new drummer and let Matt focus on his original band. And let SG do what they do best.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see that happening.  If for no other reason because I bet the paycheck is still quite a bit bigger in Pearl Jam, but also because he seems super tight with those guys, has songwriting credits in the band, etc.  He's accepted as a full on member of Pearl Jam, not just some replacement dude.

#32 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses Vs Led Zeppelin » 649 weeks ago

Don't forget that Used To Love Her, is essentially the Stones Dead Flowers with different words too.  Hell, Izzy even flat out admitted it early on.

#33 Re: Guns N' Roses » Skwerl's post on MyGNR regarding his leak and his source » 649 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

It's comical that people think myles is a bad singer.

He's one of the last few people left in the industry who has the real vocal chops to bring versatility to a setlist.

I won't deny his range, but there's something grating about his voice (tone or timbre or something) in a lot of the parts of that range. 

I don't think he sucks from a mechanics standpoint, but I know I cringe when he's singing alot.

#34 Re: Guns N' Roses » One In A Million » 650 weeks ago

Axlin12 wrote:

I do believe Axl experienced alot of that coming from a trashy, poor, white family from Indiana, and then jumping into LA. And that song was wrote from that perspective.

Being that I'm also a "smalltown whiteboy" from a tiny midwestern town, I can see where he's coming from with the song to an extent.  If you'd have plopped me into the LA Greyhound Station at 18 I might have had some similiar thoughts because I didn't know any better/hadn't experienced anything else.  At times in my childhood I heard crazy amounts of racism/homophobia from people who had probably never even considered having a conversation with a black or gay person.

That said, Even then I'd have had issues with actually using the language.  What's really strange to me about it is that he, as sort of an outcast or at least outsider, in that small town wasn't acutely aware of the problems with the thought process.

For me, the first time as a young teenager that I was in a bigger town (one that actually had black people) and my cousins and I hooked up with some black kids on a ball diamond because neither of our groups had enough to play was that moment.  It blows my mind that Axl apparently never had a similar moment, or the clarity to apply what he learned in those moments before releasing the song.

Axlin12 wrote:

As for Slash, I don't think Slash is gutless for not challenging Axl on nigger. I think Slash probably didn't have a whole lot of experience dealing with the word. Slash looks hispanic frankly, his mother was black and British (right?) and with that in consideration, Slash also is a rocker who's also pretty anti-censorship. We don't know how Axl explained to Slash his use of the word, but if I remember correctly Slash was okay with it, but was scared they were gonna get in LOTS of trouble with the fans, media, and label.

I read Duff's book not long ago, it wasn't only Slash.  One of Duff's siblings (I don't remember brother or sister)is married to a black person.  He wasn't cool with it either as he had a bunch of half black nieces and nephews by that point.  He basically made it sound like both he and Slash just didn't want to tell Axl what to write, because they didn't want to interfere with his artistry. 

I would wager there was also a lot of not wanting to deal with whatever the temper tantrum fallout of telling Axl what to do with his lyrics might be.

#35 Re: Guns N' Roses » One In A Million » 650 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

What's interesting is maybe the media is more tolerant of non-pc views from musicians than other entertainers.

Eminem raps about murder, rape, bashing gays, killing people, etc etc - and it's just seen as an artistic statement and he earns hundreds of millions of dollars.

Justin Bieber lets his teenage fanbase name his cock....

Don't think you can get away with shit like that if you're a tv host or a movie actor or something.

There was actually a pretty big backlash against Eminem at one point too, I believe for saying faggot.  It sort of went away when he performed with Elton John at (I think) The Grammys. 

Also, kinda the same deal as GNR, it probably didn't hurt that he was one of the biggest acts in the world at the time.

As far as why Geffen let him do it, probably just "Any publicity is good publicity".

tejastech08 wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

but I guess at the end of the day it's cos being funny is supposed to be fun and something that's family

I'm sorry, but this point is really not true. Greatest comedians ever are Richard Pryor and George Carlin. Those guys were very vulgar, but also told the truth on serious issues that only adults can really understand. They weren't directing their comedy or their philosophical ideas at little kids. And there are countless other comedians out there with similar performance styles (vulgar, over the top, not directed at kids, etc.).

You're right, and one of the biggest things that bothers me about this day and age is that comedians can't just make jokes in comedy clubs without someone freaking out anymore.

That said, the Kramer thing is something all it's own other than controversial comedians.  It wasn't part of a bit that was funny or thought provoking it was just him yelling at some people who were talking during his set.

#36 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New Izzy Stradlin Single "Upside" Now on iTunes » 651 weeks ago

Thanks for the heads up. 

I never downloaded the last song because I was hoping for an album coming, but if they're just coming out one at a time like this I'll probably pull the trigger and download them both.

#37 Re: The Sunset Strip » Led Zeppelin Discussion » 652 weeks ago

tejastech08 wrote:
Axlin12 wrote:

I never ever bought their catalog, but I might do it now.

This seems like sacrilege to me. GN'R was heavily influenced by Zeppelin. Kinda surprising to see a big GN'R fan who isn't also a Zephead. 16

I'm another one of those.  I like Zeppelin musically for the most part, I just can't get into Plant. 

A phrase I've used before is "every 80's singer that sucks, sucks because they're trying to sound like Robert plant". 

All that said, I'll give them all the props in the world for what they did to move rock and roll forward and all the people they were huge influences on because of it.  I'm just not really into it.

#38 Re: The Sunset Strip » Jack White Discussion » 652 weeks ago

A friend of mine is a Vault member and explained a bunch of it to me. 

No matter what you might think about Jack White the fucker should be giving symposiums on how to run a fan club to other artists.

#40 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden Discussion (King Animal out NOW!) » 654 weeks ago

From Soundgarden's Facebook:

Soundgarden is filming the official music video for By Crooked Steps today with the man, the myth, the legend Dave Grohl at the helm. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram for a behind the scenes look all day: @Soundgarden

I guess that means Grohl is directing the video?

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