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#531 Re: Guns N' Roses » European Tour Profile and Rumours » 558 weeks ago
The more and more the less and less of these shows not getting booked, the more Eddie Trunk's theory seems to be a bit more accurate.
I wonder if all of this, in true Axl style, came about quickly and they're kinda just trickling dates out, dealing with multiple managements and contractual issues, and taking it all very VERY slowly and seeing what happens.
Thus the Kimmel cancellation.
#532 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy reportedly in GN'R and wrote new music » 558 weeks ago
Not necessarily. I definitely think anything new that CAN BE worked on, will never see the light of day until Slash & Duff touch it up.
But I do think some of the EDM-shit, Pitman-infused stuff, Dizzy-wrote stuff, Bucket-wrote stuff, the almost prog-rock like stuff... will just be held over, along with that Brain-remix album, live shit album, and whatever scraps, for GNR's "Echo of Miles" release down the line.
However, we WILL hear NEW Slash & Duff GN'R music with Axl, Rich, Frank, Dizzy & Chris before we ever hear anything from the older vault stuff imo.
I also think only select songs from the vault will be touched up by Slash & Duff. I don't think they're gonna go in and re-arrange the last 20 years of Axl's creative life. That's not gonna happen.
#533 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 558 weeks ago
I agree that Cornell, and especially Brain don't go to Pitman levels, but you can with Cornell you can definitely see that when Cornell starts being Cornell, people get nervous, and Ben Shepard gets fucking infuriated. He can't stand it. Even today.
Pitman is that same category. But way way way down the totem pole. Most people do not get that Pitman is joking, like Cornell, almost half the time.
And btw, I have, and if anyone has talked to people that know Cornell. Like people that grew up with him. Same neighborhood, early bands.... Chris is still Chris. Cornell was ALWAYS like that. Even on the side.
In other words, I think if we all knew Pitman more personally, we'd know his verbage and style, and like ID said, when he's been an "Axl smartass". Pitman channels Axl alot, but Axl, unlike Cornell & Pitman, Axl is genuinely a funny guy and has great timing. Pitman does not.
#534 Re: Guns N' Roses » Update from Izzy Stradlin » 558 weeks ago
I still think Izzy's involved.
Izzy makes Axl look like Slash
Huge props to Will for making it happen tho. Good to hear from GNR's original ghost.
#535 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 558 weeks ago
Axlin16 wrote:No. Not if "Real" Pitman has a gag order on him.
This has already made some of the blog-media. The bigger sites like Blabbermouth will probably have it up tomorrow.
If fucking Slash, who talks to EVERY-FUCKING-BODY, isn't talking to ANYBODY. Including Trunk.
Pitman can't talk. He's already had his wrist slapped once.
I really think Chris was taking the piss here with MyGayNR trolls, the fly-by-nighters who can't name you deep cuts, but will get into flame wars over Izzy not being there, picking at Chris and Chris being Chris. Chris has a Chris Cornell sense of humor SG. Think for a second. Chris P will make jokes like Chris C, all the time, but only Mother Goose is in on it. Many times his lame jokes, like Chris C, go over like a egg-laden fart on a dance floor, and people just move on.
That's what happened here. The page IS REAL. Chris was JOKING. NOBODY took it that way. Everything shut down, ignore it, and it'll go away.
For SG, for the last five pages, for all of the internet... THAT's WHAT HAPPENED.
Chris doesn't need defending. Chris doesn't need supporting. This is a little thing, blown out of portion. Story over.
Everybody is jumping to conclusions over a bad joke. Pitman is known for being an idiot with jokes. Even in interviews. He takes the piss all the time in interviews. Hell, there was one interview he acted like he was Guns N' Roses. More than Axl. It was obvious he was being passive aggressive, because the interviewer was a clueless hipster moron, and he took offense.
Iverson being Iverson
Manny being Manny
LeBron being LeBron
Kobe being Kobe
Pitman being Pitman
Move along. Nothing to see here.
If you are right than I was justified in my responses because according to you he just says stupid shit only he thinks is funny. And those defending him were basically justifying his emotions but they were wrong too because in your opinion he is just a bad joke teller. He wasn't really pissed.
If your sense of humor is that bad then just shut the fuck up and don't try to say funny shit nobody interprets as a joke. Lol. He is 50 years old or so and getting flustered by MyGNR (where I post at some and never see all these horrid posters that people act like are the majority).
I don't disagree with you here. At all.
Pitman is brilliant in the studio. Imho. I like him in Guns.
But yes, his sense of humor sucks. He's that guy with the guys who's a total doofus, that thinks his lines with women sex them up when they are repulsed... Pitman is... well...
this guy
#536 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to headline Lollapalooza? » 558 weeks ago
I always had a secret love for this Eddie Money tune. A real toe tapper.
#537 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 558 weeks ago
No. Not if "Real" Pitman has a gag order on him.
This has already made some of the blog-media. The bigger sites like Blabbermouth will probably have it up tomorrow.
If fucking Slash, who talks to EVERY-FUCKING-BODY, isn't talking to ANYBODY. Including Trunk.
Pitman can't talk. He's already had his wrist slapped once.
I really think Chris was taking the piss here with MyGayNR trolls, the fly-by-nighters who can't name you deep cuts, but will get into flame wars over Izzy not being there, picking at Chris and Chris being Chris. Chris has a Chris Cornell sense of humor SG. Think for a second. Chris P will make jokes like Chris C, all the time, but only Mother Goose is in on it. Many times his lame jokes, like Chris C, go over like a egg-laden fart on a dance floor, and people just move on.
That's what happened here. The page IS REAL. Chris was JOKING. NOBODY took it that way. Everything shut down, ignore it, and it'll go away.
For SG, for the last five pages, for all of the internet... THAT's WHAT HAPPENED.
Chris doesn't need defending. Chris doesn't need supporting. This is a little thing, blown out of portion. Story over.
Everybody is jumping to conclusions over a bad joke. Pitman is known for being an idiot with jokes. Even in interviews. He takes the piss all the time in interviews. Hell, there was one interview he acted like he was Guns N' Roses. More than Axl. It was obvious he was being passive aggressive, because the interviewer was a clueless hipster moron, and he took offense.
Iverson being Iverson
Manny being Manny
LeBron being LeBron
Kobe being Kobe
Pitman being Pitman
Move along. Nothing to see here.
#538 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses Live at the Whiskey 88- Used to Love Her(minus Adler) » 558 weeks ago
I had never seen this before. Ever. I never knew this Howard guy filled in for Steven, either. Of course I knew Fred Coury from Cinderella filled in for awhile.
Either way, agree again it underscores how worthless Adler is to the core of GN'R. It's not that I hate the guy, and yes if anyone should be back there on the classics, it should be Steven before Matt, but again -- Frank Ferrer is the best all-around drummer GN'R has ever had and it should stay that way. Drummer for GN'R is kind of the same story for Pearl Jam (before Cameron). Drummer was always the least important job in the band. Regardless of what Izzy says.
As far as GN'R taking a hit after Izzy left... yes, writing-wise they were NEVER able to get back on the same page. Slash liked writing with Gilby. Axl wanted nothing to do with Gilby. Axl liked writing with Paul. Slash hated Paul. Slash & Duff liked writing together, but Axl didn't like the material. Axl & Duff liked writing together, but Slash didn't like the material.
So on and so on...
When Izzy was there. Whole different ballgame.
But ON STAGE... no, nothing was lost with Izzy being gone. Nothing. Gilby filled in perfectly fine on the UYI tour, and even Axl admitted that basically from 1989 on-wards the stage guys just turned Izzy's amp down and let Slash take on everything and be the star as a 4-piece + Dizzy later.
Enter 2016
We're still at the same problem. GN'R with Axl, Slash, Richard, Duff, Frank, Dizzy and "maybe" Chris (who knows anymore?) is gonna kick ass on stage. But will they ever get back in a writing groove without Izzy?
They're gonna have to try. If Izzy ain't coming back, he ain't coming back. He's been gone since 1990 fucking 1. Time to move on. Hopefully if they do write new material, it's good, and not the absolute disaster the post DeGarmo-era was for Queensryche. When DeGarmo left, they fell completely apart from a writing standpoint.
#539 Re: Guns N' Roses » Classic Rock article: "The real story behind GN'R's return" » 558 weeks ago
I still don't think all the vocals are finished. I think bits n' pieces are finished. Raw demos exist. But a fully finished product. I don't believe that. I think that's the "99%" people speak of. Many times Tommy said even as recently as during the 2006 tour that the reason Chinese wasn't ready for release was because Axl's vocals weren't finished.
Now he could've recorded a thousand different versions and wanted to multi-track all of it. OR, and more likely, they simply just were done. They had test tracks or demos that were basically finished and waiting for some takes to be laid down, and Axl just never got it done.
In my humble opinion.
Beyond that, I think the rest is up in the air, UNLESS Axl did indeed finish Chinese II because he and his camp thought within the last couple years that its release was imminent.
Either way, with Slash & Duff being back in the band, we're back to the start to quote AIC. Everything is to start again. There is NO FUCKING WAY ANYTHING gets released out of the GN'R camp that doesn't feature re-arranging by Slash & Duff in order to promote the band. Even if Axl plans on releasing the Chinese leftovers as a "Echo of Miles", it'll be AFTER the 'comeback' album is released WITH Slash & Duff.
#540 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R Twitter Updates » 558 weeks ago
I think we've all missed the big revelation here...
I had no clue Mother Goose was a Crowley follower. I must've missed the Thelema shirt from the past.
Why don't he practice some of that black magick and get some fuckin' vault tracks released?
