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#5591 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy Chart Positions Thread » 910 weeks ago

There is no "All Summer Long" hit on this album.  There is no song that's going to get play on pop, rock, and country stations.  We can't even all agree on a hit, how is the general public that has no interest in this version of GnR going to?

#5594 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 910 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

No.  What I'm saying is there would have been even less interest in an Axl Rose solo album than there was in a new GnR album (if you can imagine that being possible).  Thus, we have a new GnR album.  They are diehard GnR fans that were either willing to give Axl's solo effort a try or that are going to buy anything under the name GnR regardless of what is on it

The old joke was that Axl could fart into a mic and sell a million copies the first week...where does that put CD?

I'm not sure I completely agree with that notion either.  Even in reference to your joke, I didn't go to those lengths exactly but I used to joke that if Axl put out an album of him whistling (he's a damn good whistler) I'd buy it.  I've loved Guns N' Roses since the early 90's, they were my favorite band by far.  I'd put myself in the "die hard" category I guess so I'll assume others have similar passions for the band.  I didn't get into Slash's Snakepit or Gilby, Izzy, Duff, or anyone else's solo projects.  But I welcomed Velvet Revolver with open arms for both their albums.  And like it or not, Axl Rose is the VOICE of Guns N' Roses (although not promotion wise as we can painfully see).  If it was the Axl Rose Band I certainly would've bought it, whistling and all.  The label Guns N' Roses didn't have any factor, just as the label Velvet Revolver didn't have any factor.  I would think all die hard fans would feel the same, although maybe I'm assuming too much.  I think where the "this only sold as much as it did/will is because of the GNR brand name" comes into play is when the non diehards buy it, which both you and I concluded hasn't happened yet.  Will it?  We'll have to wait and see.

So you fall into the part I bolded.  You were going to buy it regardless.  How are you agreeing and disagreeing with me at the same time?  Yes, YOU would have bought an Axl Rose solo album.  Not everybody would have, nor would they have felt obligated to buy it as some people seem to have felt obligated to buy CD.  Are you really saying that keeping the name Guns N' Roses didn't help the sales of the album?  Please tell me that's not what you're saying.

#5595 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 910 weeks ago

I also honestly believe very few people walked into BB without the intention of buying that album and actually bought the album.  Those that bought it purposely went in to buy it with almost no impulse purchases.

#5596 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 910 weeks ago

No.  What I'm saying is there would have been even less interest in an Axl Rose solo album than there was in a new GnR album (if you can imagine that being possible).  Thus, we have a new GnR album.  They are diehard GnR fans that were either willing to give Axl's solo effort a try or that are going to buy anything under the name GnR regardless of what is on it. 

The old joke was that Axl could fart into a mic and sell a million copies the first week...where does that put CD?

#5597 Re: Guns N' Roses » What if Scott Weiland was telling the truth? » 910 weeks ago

Paxcow wrote:
Aussie wrote:

You're obviously not up to speed on your GN'R history.  GW don't say anything, Erin on the other hand... 

(well that was the rumour at the time - google it and you can find shit on it).

uh...i already know about all that and what she said, and i think she exaggerated and lied for the most part. she is obviously a bitch.

Somebody must be on the payroll.

#5598 Re: Guns N' Roses » What did you expect? » 910 weeks ago

faldor wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

The only reason CD has done what it's done is because of the brand name itself.


Considering the fact the music itself hasn't spoken, and neither has Axl, Axl should donate his portion of profit to Slash, Izzy, Duff & Steven for building the name - GUNS N' ROSES - into what it is.

'Cause that's the only thing that is selling this album right now. The name.

I'm not so sure I agree with that.  Unless people are blindly buying Guns N' Roses CD's without knowing Slash isn't in the band anymore.  My friends are well aware that GNR is just Axl (in their minds at least) and they didn't buy CD.  They're fans of the old band and have seen the new lineup twice (to see the old songs get played), but the GNR brand name wasn't enough for them to be among the 261K.  I'd say a very small minority of people bought Chinese Democracy last week JUST because the disc said Guns N' Roses on it.  I think we've gone over in major detail about the lack of promo.  How in the heck would they have even known it was out to go buy it?

I would say the majority did.  They don't have 261K buying the album because of the 2 half filled tours they went on, they have people buying it because it's a Guns N' Roses album.  Even Axl knows that or there wouldn't even be a new Guns N' Roses album.

#5599 Re: Guns N' Roses » What if Scott Weiland was telling the truth? » 910 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

Can anyone tell me, where anyone throughout this board has spoken badly of Axl, as a human being?

Well, beating the shit out of Erin and Steph isn't one of his finer moments as a human being.

#5600 Re: Guns N' Roses » What if Scott Weiland was telling the truth? » 910 weeks ago

They will sell eventually, it just might take a long time.

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