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#641 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy is 12 years old » 285 weeks ago

I still really enjoy the songs and the album overall.

As an obsessive fan lol, it's haunted in my mind by the "what if" a few things were different. How would these songs be with slightly different arrangements? etc.

Mind you that's not an uncommon thought with GNR related stuff for me. I always wonder what Snakepit 95 would sound like with Axl, and what a third VR album might have sounded like if they could have got slash happier.

These days I wonder if we'll ever hear the other CD session stuff finished up.

In one of the parallel dimensions there must be a shit ton of GNR records.

#642 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Video Game Console Thread » 285 weeks ago

Speaking of Civ.....

I have this weird thing with Civ where I used to really enjoy the simplified dumb down Civ Revolutions version they had on ps3.

I've seen proper civ people say it's too simple, but I found it was a good mix for casual gaming - I found Civ 6 on Ps4 to be kinda more work than fun in a way. It sorta felt like I had to do all these chores all the time within the game. Not sure if that was just me. hahaha.

#643 Re: Guns N' Roses » How much has Axl worked on CD since its release? » 285 weeks ago

Wagszilla wrote:

The 14 songs from the released album.

Going back to the OP question.

Have these songs evolved further? I could imagine a George Lucas aspect to it - afterall the band has done stuff like release 2 versions of Don't Cry and You're Crazy. Doesn't mean they will - but I wouldn't rule it out.

We know at least there was some toying around with remixes by people associated with the band.

There's the  DJ Ashba remix of better and the Bumble Acoustic version of better. Although both of those might have just been the members toying around with them as they both feature the released vocal tracks. Then there's the brain and melisa remix of ITW. I always thought these were slightly strange projects.

I mean Chinese is one of my favourite albums. But it's strange to me when you consider that these songs seemed to already dominate the GNR creative landscape from 1999-2008 - that then when they finally came out - only few years on that they'd be again the focus - you'd think he would have been keen to put them to bed already. Especially given how many other songs and partial songs from the era are said to exist...in a way it's odd that these songs - as good as they are to me - keep re-surfacing.

Meanwhile...more interesting to me is the remix version of This I Love - as that one uses a different vocal track! Was it made using an ancient outtake from the original sessions, or did Axl step back to the studio later and lay down new vocals for it?

If i had to guess, i notice that a lot of the style of the way he sings it in the remix sounds similar to his 2009 style voice...which makes me wonder if he did indeed record those vocals much later than previous versions. But I could be totally wrong on that.

We've also seen Slash and Duff re-arrange elements of Better live.

Who knows but I could imagine that a follow up album might see a re-visited song or two from Chinese - perhaps arranged with more of a rock feel and with Slash and Duff doing their thing, along with the unreleased Chinese stuff, and you'd assume a couple of modern slash rockers as well.

#644 Re: The Sunset Strip » Anyone else looking forward to AC/DC's new album? » 285 weeks ago

This album was kinda a grower for me.

When I first heard it I was a little underwhelmed as part of me is always hoping for another huge "Thunderstruck" style single.

However I gave it a few spins the next day and started to really like a few of the tracks. It ended up being a worthy part of the catalogue for me even if it doesn't have my all time favourites on it.

Overall it's just nice to have Brian back.

I loved Axl/Dc - Axl's voice was amazing on those shows - but for Brian to go out from the band so suddenly and clearly unhappily after decades of kicking ass...phil to be locked down...then Cliff to retire....it was sort of an ignominious ending for such a glorious band.

So i'm just very happy that they've risen from the ashes so to speak.

#645 Re: Guns N' Roses » GN'R to tour Australia and New Zealand November 2021 » 285 weeks ago

Well....sucker that I am I got VIP pit tickets too.

Old Times Sake or something like that.

Plus the optimist in me says the lockdown break may have done them good and next years show's will be fresh.

#646 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Super Hero Movie Epidemic » 395 weeks ago

I'm not really that much of a shared universe guy.

I read a few comics growing up but always preferred the stand alone kinda stories to the cross over type where they all exist in the same place.

I think its easier for suspension of disbelief, like you can imagine a world with a batman, or a superman, or a spiderman or whatever, but all of them at once moves into a rather unlikely place.

That said for a crossover I enjoyed BvS: Dawn of Justice, but I felt that they ruined the sequel as they tried to make it too much like marvel and lost all the edge.

As for marvel, I enoyed the early waves of them - like Ironman 1 and Captain America 1, and even Avengers 1 despite it being a shared flick - but now that it's gone on this long I find it gets hard to keep up with and full of kinda in-jokes.

Reminds me of growing up a starwars guy and then watching some startrek - I can enjoy it but it's kinda for people who have watched all the startrek.

Anyways I don't mind them - but its sad if this is ALL hollywood does. Like superhero stuff has a place. But if we get nothing but remakes, franchinse entries and so on - I wonder how we will ever find the next generation of auters.

How do you get a new Quentin Tarrintino or a new martin scorsese or someone of that nature in this system. How do you find a ridley scott, or hell, even a speilberg or cameron...if its all just going to be superheros and reboots.

#647 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 401 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

Cant imagine Robin on rhythm, but it was insane to have him on lead with Buckethead in the band. The whole CD era was a spectacular car crash, I just wish it had more recorded music to show for it, all that talent so little to show for it, what a waste of precious time.

Yeah I feel that strongly these days too...when the guys are starting to get a little older and you look at all those prime years where not much happened.

I mean for example in 2004 we felt we'd waited for ages cos there'd been nothing new in 10 years or so. But in 2008 it's another 10 years and this wait has been even worse IMO.

#648 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 402 weeks ago

^ 16

Seriously though - it's normal for them to have some negotiation time.

Like CD came out in 2008 but re-recording was done in 2006 or so.

Slash started talking to Axl circa 2014 but reunion happened 2016.

AFD Deluxe came out 2018 not for 2017 anniversary.

I would factor in at least 12-18 months of business bullshit in anything associated with Axl's people.

#649 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 402 weeks ago

So a possible realistic timeline for the band is maybe:


rest of 2018: Slash Tour
2019: Slash tour, end of year Slash records.
2020: Axl records additional vocals, remixes, tinkers, record ready by end of year.
2021: team brazil negotiates with record label
2022: record released, end 2022 tour starts
2023: tour
2024: tour
2025: end tour and break
2026: break
2027: break
2028: farewell tour
2029: farewell tour
2030: Axl retires at 68

#650 Re: Guns N' Roses » LEAKS THREAD » 402 weeks ago

AndreCC wrote:

the thing with guitarists, much like frontmen, they also have an ego, and no one wanted to play Rhythm besides Fortus.

I dunno if I'd blame the players for that.

I mean realistically, it's stupid when you have one of the foremost shredders in the world to use that person in a rhythm guitar role.

I would argue that the 3 guitar model in general was underutilising guys like Bumble and Bucket. Look at RIR3 - you see several times in songs where bucket is standing around on stage basically playing an open D chord - cos the rhythm and lead parts are being handled already - then every now and then he gets thrown something to do.

Same thing with bumble a lot of the time, or for that matter - watch what ashaba is doing when bumble plays a solo - they come up with cute ways to augment each others parts and stuff...but essentially you have 2 guys doing what is really 1 mans job. That's then made worse that some of the times the spare man is a guy like bumble or bucket who already has the guitar powers of several mortals already.

Another issue with the 3 guitar parts is a lot of the time the sound/visual people are playing catch up. In the songs where half of a songs solo is played by one and half by the other there's often a moment or two of nothing but rhythm as the sound dude frantically turns down one and up the other, and the video guy desperately searches the stage for who is playing. Hell watch close enough and you'll notice by the end of his tenure - bumble often raises his hand in the air like a kid in class right before he takes his solo turn. It's like he's signalling to the sound guy lifeguard "over here...over here"....hahahah....not sure if that's intentional or just coincidence..

.but either way I dunno if the problem is people not wanting to play rhythm....I mean it would be silly to bring bucket in for rhythm. Then bumble was brought in to emulate bucket parts. Maybe there's an arguement robin should be rhythm...but that's Axl's fault - matt suggested him for rhythm and Axl's slash hatred at the time made him say "no..move him to lead"..then no one had the balls to move him when bucket was better...they just bullied bucket instead like cowards....strange band GNR.

As for bucket...in terms of chops he has the chops to be anyone...but stylistically although he does play blues well here and there.. he tends more towards Paul Gilbert type stuff..and a lot of his trick type stunt stuff.....there's more to slash than the chops alone it's the psychology and mood he brings to the songs...that's what no one replicated.

I mean realistically from a guitar sound point of view GNR is slash's band. I know izzy wrote a bunch of riffs, but everything memorable and iconic guitar wise basically is Slash's style and comes from slash and the attitude Slash brings to the songs. That kinda aerosmith style he was emulating and all the rest. Aside from the vocals the GNR sound is slash's sound.

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