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#6811 Re: Guns N' Roses » Another theory as to why the the ball is in the record company's hands » 959 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
Jameslofton wrote:

He can't decide what label to release it on unless Uni drops GNR. They decide, not him. Its the one thing Axl has no control over.

Exactly. I don't know who's "educated guess" this is, but it's way off if the person thinks Axl has any control over who releases this album at this point.

Yeah, I don't think this guys an "expert" 16 


If the labels had the album for some time now, I think they would have went for a Nov/Holiday release. What better time, why wait until Spring when it's possible U2 &/or Metallica could come out. With VR not doing well, a GnR released would have had it's best timing it'll see for a long time. With each passing year & season the timing just gets worse & worse. I think the label knows it's best plan is to release it asap. I don't think they're holding it up or to blame for the delay because they are "waiting to figure out what to do with it". If there's negotiations going on (Axl wants to renogotiate) that's another thing, but even then that wouldn't mean it was handed in. Every years it's the same BS with this band.

#6812 Re: The Garden » The NFL 2007-08 Season thread » 959 weeks ago

Yeah, we are starting to figure out which teams are for real, and which are out of the playoffs (Eagles). I wish Indy won, but they did expose alot about NE. They're LB's are pretty old, don't know they will keep it up all year. I didn't know Buffalo was 4-4, they really turned it around. Marshawn Lynch is a great player too, just that Adrian Peterson is stealing all the thunder. Deservedly so, that guys a stud. Glad Cleveland is doing well, the AFC wildcard will come down to the final week. Whereas I think the NFC might just be between WASH, DET & NYG. I give Wade Phillips credit, he's done a good job with Dallas, unlike Norv Turner & SD. I thought coaching would be an issue for them. Say what you want, but Tony Romo is pretty good. I'm not saying he's great, but for a guy outta nowhere he's doing a really good job. Alot of teams 1st round picks aren't as good as him (Aaron Smith at SF, Byron Leftwich etc) & a few others are still unproven (Brady Quinn, Leinart etc).

I agree with you James about the AFC West & NFL rethinking it's playoffs, I don't think they will, but the 4 team division is a joke. Only 2 wildcard teams?? What if Det Wash & NYG all finish 11-5 & only 2 make the wildcard but the AFC West team goes 8-8 or even worse 7-9? That'd be a disgrace.

#6813 Re: The Garden » The 10 Greatest RBs of all time elimination- Round 2 » 959 weeks ago

I went with Roger Craig. He was more of a receiving running back which I feel was a result of being more a part of the system. Also having Rice, John Taylor, & Montana didn't hurt.

#6814 Re: The Sunset Strip » What do you think are the best produced albums? » 959 weeks ago

I think Butch Vig did a great job with Nevermind. Sure it's a little too polished, but maybe that's what makes it great. Take a little punk band & make it marketable, in 1991?!

Also Siamese Dream, by the Pumpkins. Great Album. Maybe Ritual De Lo Habitual by Jane's.

Glad to see Achtung Baby on here, that was probably going to be my first choice. So far ahead of it's time. Some of those songs sound like they could be released today. Speaking of which, where's Bono (the poster) he hasn't made it over to the new site yet has he??

#6816 Re: The Garden » 88 Fast Food Items that can KILL YOU » 960 weeks ago

I don't eat much fast food. Mostly just cheesesteaks & pizza (Mom & Pop owned, not chain pizza). Not that either are much healthier. I did like In-N-Out burger though, that place kicked ass. Ashame they don't have them out here. Actually they don't have Jack N the box or Carls Jr. And not very many Sonics or White Castles. McDonalds does have the best fries though IMHO.

#6817 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 960 weeks ago

Christmas is right out... Therefore we're looking at May. I still don't think the label has it, until I hear it from a source more valid than a poster on a website. Regardless if he goes by a name like "Mysteron"

#6818 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 960 weeks ago

Well, if you want to "read into it" Mysteron doesn't say the label has hold of the finished album. He just says "The delay is being caused by the record company."  By that,  they may not have received the masters. Therefore, they may not have the album, have heard the album, or have an album to release. So why would they decide what to do with it when they may not even have it. Why waste time & resources. Don't bother.


Once again, Mysteron's vagueness is irrelevant.

#6819 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 960 weeks ago

True, but I think it's alot easier to promo & market the first Guns N Roses record in 16 years than it is to market an up & coming & potential breakthrough artist. MIA potentially could have exploded into the Shakira/Kelly Clarkson stratoshpere if things went there way & everything was clicking. So they really needed a launch campaign & proper timing, singles, and marketing to the correct audiences. I think with GnR they could just put an ad on Target, Best Buy etc's websites saying CD available Nov 20th (or whatever) & send a fax to MTV & all the rock stations. That alone would get some publicity & still sell fairly decent. & that's without even trying.


Anyway, if what Mysteron said is true (which is questionable) I think all it means is they are playing hardball with each other during negotiations. Axl asking for something, the record company isn't budging.

#6820 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Reason Behind The Delay Of "Chinese Democracy"....? » 960 weeks ago

Mysteron is right, this makes total sense. The cd is turned in, artwork etc completed. They just do not want to release this album. Yes that's it. WAHHHHHHH the label won't release CD, wAHHHHHHH. WAHHHHHH the label has a grudge against Axl WAHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH the label wants Axl to pay 13 million before they release it, otherwise they will hold onto it forever WAHHHHHHHHH WWAHHHHHHH protest the record company, they are evil WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHH it's the record companies fault WAHHHHHHHHHHHH


Seriously, you'd have to be from another planet to believe this. The label would LOVE to release this. The only hint of truth that might be in this,  is if Axl said "I'll turn the masters in if........." (if the label does this ______ ie. renogitiate the contract, forgive the 13 mil advance etc etc). But in no way, whatsoever do I believe the master was handed in, and is just sitting on somebody's desk because the label has a vandetta or grudge against Axl. Absolutely not. The label is trying to make money. Selling a GnR record would do just that.

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