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#691 Re: The Garden » Florida primary. » 962 weeks ago
Looks like McCain is going to win....
. I was pulling for Romney for 1st. Glad to see Guliani is going to drop
EDIT: Clarifying, I did not mean he announced it already. I am just assuming (before someone thinks I know something they don't)
#692 Re: The Garden » John McCain says "I don't really understand economics" » 963 weeks ago
Ron Paul Debate Performance May Have Hurt John McCain
By Tim Morgan
Jan 25, 2008
The Florida debate that was hosted by MSNBC for the Republican Party was important for the voters of Florida. It was the polar opposite of the Democratic debates of late and showcased some civility and it seems clear that most observers believed that Mitt Romney won the debate. Certainly he was better than his main competition, John McCain, and from my observations I think McCain was hurt a bit by Ron Paul.
Wait - what? Hear me out. Paul is a ten-term US Congressman from Texas and he will finish in dead last in Florida. Most of the party shudders when he speaks but on Thursday night his performance was spot on as most of the debate was on the economy and that is his specialty.
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Romney looked good, sounded presidential and mixed in some pretty good humor. Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani weren't very good in the debate, but neither did anything to hurt their campaigns. But both needed serious efforts or they are going to fade away very quickly after Tuesday's vote. Then there was Ron Paul. Many have dubbed him a kook and while I'm not sure that is fair, but he has taken on some heavy fire in the earlier debates.
This one was different, civility ruled and Paul was able to speak clearly and stayed on message and highlighted his strength which is the understanding of economic policy. There was a special section of the debate where candidates were allowed to quiz other candidates with specific questions. Paul aimed his at McCain and his answer was confusing at best. It was a question about the transparency of government and McCain just rattled off a bunch of insiders names and seemed very confused. See the video here.
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The debate showed again that McCain's biggest weakness will be economic policy and as the campaign has shifted away from the war in Iraq this may be an ongoing problem for McCain. If this thing turns into "It's the economy stupid" as I believe it will, McCain is in trouble.
Who knew that Mitt Romney's best ally in the state of Florida would wind up as being Ron Paul. If Romney rallies for a win in the Sunshine State he may have to send Paul a thank you note.
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/pu … 8489.shtml
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REP. PAUL: My'”my question is for Senator McCain.
This is an economic question that I wanted to ask. It has to do with the President's Working Group on Financial Markets.
I'd like to know what your opinion is of this and whether you would keep it in place, what their role would be, or you would get rid of this group. And if you kept the group, would you make sure we would see some sunlight and know what they're doing and how they're being involved in our markets?
SEN. MCCAIN: Well, obviously we'd like to see more sunshine.
But I as president, as every other president, rely primarily on my secretary of the Treasury, on my Council of Economic Advisers, on the head of that. I would rely on the circle that I have developed over many years of people like Jack Kemp, Phil Gramm, Warren Rudman, Pete Peterson and the Concord group. I have a process of leadership, Ron, that is sort of an inclusive one that I have developed, a circle of acquaintances and people that are supporters and friends of mine who I have worked with for many, many years.
REP. PAUL: So you'd get rid of the group?
SEN. MCCAIN: You remember back in 1982 when Phil Gramm'”Phil Gramm and Warren Rudman and Gramm-Latta and all of those people got the first real tax cuts done, the real'”first real restraints in taxes. I was there. You were there. And I rely on those people to a much larger degree than any, quote, 'formal' organization, although the secretary of Treasury is obviously one of the key and important posts that I would have.
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Personally I thought Ron Paul did bad at this debate, but since this thread talks about McCain and economics I thought I could rep Paul a little more than I already do 
#693 Re: Guns N' Roses » New Info regarding CD » 963 weeks ago
Well at least this is something... .
At least for the most part we can agree "it MIGHT be done." lol.
#694 Re: The Garden » Ron Paul MLK Money Bomb! Please consider a donation :) » 963 weeks ago
25 bucks from me.
Thanks P&G!! 
#695 Re: The Garden » Ron Paul MLK Money Bomb! Please consider a donation :) » 963 weeks ago
Thanks James. I wish more young people would look at the issues and vote for that. Instead I have some friends who are voting for Obama because "he's black and not republican." It gets old man.
I know chances for Ron are slim, but if everyone waits for an for someone who has a great chance at winning, then in the next campaign someone "non mainstream" will have to start from square one again. At least if people who support Ron Paul show that they are willing to support and fight for this idea there can be someone in the future who takes up the flame. We'll see. Either way, RP 2008! Lol
#696 The Garden » Ron Paul MLK Money Bomb! Please consider a donation :) » 963 weeks ago
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The Ron Paul campaign is hoping to once again raise millions in a single day on January 21st, Martin Luther King day.
So far over 6000 visitors to the website http://www.freeatlast2008.com/ have pledged to donate to Dr Paul on the national holiday in another mass donation day organized by grass roots supporter Trevor Lyman.
Lyman was the brains behind the record breaking donation days on November 5th and December 15th last year that raised $4.3 and $6 million respectively, pushing Paul's fourth quarter earnings to around $20 million, making him the biggest GOP fundraiser closing out 2007.
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Please consider a generous donation. I donated 175 bucks 
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#697 Re: Guns N' Roses » Didn't you used to be Sean Paul? » 964 weeks ago
HAha! Lol. Good stuff. Karma
#698 Re: Guns N' Roses » "Mystery" Band to reunite in Sweden » 964 weeks ago
Come on guys.. we KNOW this isn't GNR. I'm really surprised some people thought this could be them
#699 The Garden » Wonder who we will be fighting in 10-20 years? » 964 weeks ago
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Hope it's not the Saudi's
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Bush delivers major arms sale on visit to Saudi Arabia
US President George W. Bush, on his first visit to this oil-rich kingdom, delivered a major arms sale Monday to a key ally in a region where the US casts neighboring Iran as a menace to stability.
Bush's talks with Saudi King Abdullah, which began over dinner and were continuing with late-night meetings, also were expected to cover peace between Israelis and Palestinians and democracy in the Middle East.
Coinciding with Bush's trip, the Bush administration in Washington notified Congress on Monday that it would offer Saudi Arabia the chance to buy sophisticated Joint Direct Attack Munitions - or "smart bomb" - technology and related equipment, the State Department said. The administration envisions the transfer of 900 of the precision-guided bomb kits, worth US$123 million, that would give the kingdom's armed forces highly accurate targeting abilities.
The proposed deal follows notification of five other packages to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait, bringing to US$11.5 billion the amount of advanced US weaponry, including Patriot missiles, that the administration has announced it will provide to friendly Arab nations, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. Administration officials say the total amount of eventual sales as part of the Gulf Security Dialogue is estimated at $20 billion, a figure subject to actual purchases.
The arms packages are an important part of the US strategy to bolster the defenses of oil-producing Gulf nations, such as Saudi Arabia, against threats from Iran. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, which have majority Sunni Muslim populations, harbor deep suspicions about Shiite Iran's apparent designs to establish itself as a major power.
Congress already has been briefed on all the packages, which also include the sale of the Navy's Littoral Combat system. Lawmakers mostly see the deals as critical to maintaining relations with war-on-terror allies. Some are opposed to the JDAMs portion out of concern that it gives Saudi Arabia the ability to attack Israel, but are unlikely to muster the two-thirds majority needed, within an allowed 30-day period, to block the sales.
The administration has assured lawmakers in closed briefings in recent months that there would be proper restrictions on the JDAMs sales to ensure they would not threaten to Israel. Israel, which has been sold JDAMs technology by the US as well, also has said it does not oppose the deal.
White House counselor Ed Gillespie said he did not know if the president and the king had discussed rising oil prices, but he said the subject has come up on this trip, particularly in terms of Bush's goals for developing alternate fuels and sources of energy, including nuclear power. The Saudis are responsible for almost one-third of OPEC's total output. Gillespie said Mideast leaders "talked about the nature of the market and the vast demand that's on the world market today for oil," something he called "a legitimate and accurate point."
Another item for possible discussion were the democratic principles Bush has promoted during his trip. While Abdullah has tried to push some reforms on education and women's rights and there have been limited municipal council elections, the king has been cautious and limited in his efforts. He apparently has been hampered by others in the royal family worried that fast changes could upset the country's conservative clerics and citizens.
After arriving Monday afternoon in Riyadh from Dubai, Bush expected to hear Abdullah urge him to keep up the pressure on Israel to halt settlements in Palestinian territories. The administration was able to persuade the Saudis to participate in the US-sponsored Middle East peace conference in Annapolis, Md., in November.
#700 Re: The Garden » Electronic Sacrifice! » 964 weeks ago
I could do without a console. Hardly play
