Yeah i agree Neemo...i think pulling out of this would be much harsher than the harley add.

I mean that was just stock footage and they could overdub any song...a lot more work will have gone into making this song playable in the game - and given those people from the company were talking about playing the track like a few weeks ago...it looks all good so far!

I'm excited...I like the leaks we've had...and if its similar quality and fully mastered it promices to be a good listen

Libertad isn't on par with some of Slash's best playing, ala It's Five O'Cock somewhere...but there's still some good music on it. She Mine and Get out the Door are pretty catchy and fun to have up real loud...and Let it Roll is one of the best songs i've heard in ages...just a simple fun song!

Great posts guys. I know i'm the resident Devil's Advocate poster in relation to the music industry on this board

Interesting stuff about the death of the record stores. it's been a bit different here in Melbourne Australia. There's always been the rare odd private record store (melbourne is a very small city by international standards) but most of the music stores are chain based. The real change was simply the death of one chain based music retailer (brashs) and the rise of another JB HiFi...and of course the inculsion of CDs in variety style stores like Kmart, Target, and so on. I can see that the kind of culture you guys used to have would sway my views on the matter too.

I guess what i'm trying to say about it all is I have a couple of issues with the new models:

Firstly...i feel its fine for established millionares like Trent to get on a high horse about music being free and so on, but he has had years of traditional commerical push to be able to back that move. My question is - yeah it works for an established band like NIN with a fan base and a known name - but what is the new unsigned band to do? What would GNR do if Slash, Izzy and Axl were the street kids of 1983 or whatever but in 2008? Like trent can afford to make a super-hi-res recording of himself and then give it away for free. What is a band like mine to do? Where do I get $1 Million dollars for a studio recording and even if I get it, if I'm then expected to sell the produce of that recording for free or pocket change - how is that viable for continued production of new albums? I fully endorse kicking the corporate assholes in the nuts like trent is - but I also see the need for some kind of viable way for music to sold. It costs a ton of money to make quality stuff, and we need to have a model that makes this money back even if it doesn't turn over a profit. And the NIN model is not that for any band other than an established name group.

The other alternative is to go "free love" and say all music should be made for free and kept for free. Which has a romantic vibe to it. But then we have to consider then - that would mean that studio level recodings will go to home-studio level on a mass scale. I mean my demos sound ok for the cheap money I make them on. But they sound shit compared to what $10million from Warner would sound like at a studio.n Its ok if we want to make this change but we have to understand thats what we'll get. Cos right now guys like trent can do it out of their own money - but thats because they are already rich - if we disable the industry there won't be new rich acts. But are new upcomming acts supossed to work night shift at kmart till they can save $500k for an album? The idea of having a record company to develop new acts isn't all bad.

Thirdly...what about finding new talent? If there is no R+D and No labels promoting stuff...how do we sift through thousands of myspace pages of kids playing crap, to find the new upcomming professional musicians. How do we find the GNR of yesterday today? Or even the new buckcherry's and co - and distinguish them from the posers and hacks. There needs to be some kind of record industy - yeah the old one was dodgy - but replacing it with stuff like NIN are doing only works for people like trent.

I think i'm alone in that view...but hey!! It's fun to tell ya'll what i think!;)

Fuck. Hope he's ok