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#981 Re: Guns N' Roses » Knockin' on Heaven's Door » 448 weeks ago
I dunno the "Aye Aye Aye yeah" revolutionised the whole song if you ask me....and Slash's second solo was just magical back in the UYI era.
#982 Re: Guns N' Roses » Knockin' on Heaven's Door » 449 weeks ago
Sorum was a hell of a drummer though, SFTD came on the other day and I found my self tuned in to the drumming. The drums on that outro are killer.
Yeah I love it! Some great axl scream tone in the second half too.
When Sorum was new I didn't really think much of him but over the years I've really come to appreciate the drumming on UYI, Snakepit and the VR records. He's great at that hard rock sound.
#983 Re: Guns N' Roses » Knockin' on Heaven's Door » 449 weeks ago
I love it.
But it's one of those songs where the studio was never as good as the live version.
1992 has some really beautiful slash solos. 2006 has some amazing Axl screams in the banter with the crowd. 2017 has some cool richard/slash soloing (although i'll grant maybe it goes a bit long now).
But its one of those songs Axl really made his own.
#984 Re: Guns N' Roses » Help Needed - Dave A with GNR? » 449 weeks ago
I'd like to hear this too.
#985 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:I believe it.
It seems like he alternates between hyper confidence and insecurity with his work in general.
I don't think it's the solution to everything but I do think some of his behaviour over the years could be attributed to mental health issues.
I really don't like it when people start speculating about Axl's mental health – it's not something we know anything about, it's not our place to, and it's his own business.
He's a public figure it comes with the territory.
Especially when you waste your prime years in self imposed isolation, inexplicably act against your own interests a great deal of the time, shun the media and only communicate with your fan base and customers every few years.
It's to be expected.
#986 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
I believe it.
It seems like he alternates between hyper confidence and insecurity with his work in general.
I don't think it's the solution to everything but I do think some of his behaviour over the years could be attributed to mental health issues.
#987 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
Anxiety and stage fright, perhaps?
I think that's a factor at times.
Re-watching the infamous raincoat Rio12 performance it reminds me of when someone gets on "tilt" in poker.
For those not into it - Tilt refers to when anger and frustration at some bad luck cause a person to start playing below their normal skill level.
In Axl's case you could kind of see he was upset and frustrated at messing up in 2012 and it seemed to be causing him to compound it. From memory he ended up not even singing the outro of NR.
Plus it's likely a lot of his historical late starts were related to anxiety, he talked a lot of having to get into the right mindset etc.
That said...it's clear he uses his scream a lot more in Ac/Dc than he does in GNR at the moment...and I think part of it is that he knows he can get away with less in GNR.
#988 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
You think Rio was down to him 'not trying'?
It's a combination is my guess.
Some of the problem was clearly sound issues - that's why the band was out of time etc.
Some of the problem is Axl is obviously not capable of doing some of the things he used to. It's clear they generally pick songs to favour his problems, you can see he protects when possible, and minimises the need for insane parts of the songs. You can see that even when he pulls it off it's a lot less effortless than it was a few years back.
And lastly...yes...I think some of the problem is that Axl clearly saves use of the rasp for situations where he needs to win back a bit of credit.
He used a lot more rasp for the first few shows of the 2016 legs. I thought when he started swapping to mickey it must mean he was wearing himself out, but then the rasp was back in full power only days later with Axl/Dc. I think he does it when it's needed - he could not get away with his Ac/Dc debut being mickey - and if the first reunion shows were poor there would have been media backlash. But now the hype has died down its safe to go in at 70% rather than 100 again and he's doing that.
Perhaps he is ill too. But it's funny how it's always the proshots and the professional recordings where there's suddenly technical issues and illness.
#989 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
So basically after Brazilian media wrote articles saying Axl's voice was a disaster he will try again for 1 or 2 shows....
the fan base will say it was just a bad show....
The handful of good performances will only be audience shot and not important in terms of stuff like the special #afd 30 show or Rock in Rio....
Then Axl will resume going easy for the next 20 - 30 shows until they blow another big event....
Then repeat.
#990 Re: Guns N' Roses » Rock In Rio 2017 | Sept 23 » 450 weeks ago
damn, that's a long time ago, so many wasted years.
That's what gets me. I really want to be positive and enjoy the band like I used to. I try to just enjoy what's left without thinking too much on what could have been etc...but they really do make it hard....the band consistently blows every chance to do something cool it seems. Hall of Fame, AFD30, Rio...the list goes on year after year.
It's insane to think there's tracks with Axl vocals from 1999 sitting around waiting to be worked on and the politics of releasing them sorted out in 2017. There's entire albums. There multiple tour documentaries and amazing pro-shots never released. The amount of cool suff they hoard is crazy, and that's without thinking about what they might have done.
It's tragic that Axl has spent the bulk of his professional life semi-retired when for most of it he could do mind-blowing-world-conquoring stuff on a whim if he had chosen to. Think of the throw away moments - think of Axl doing the cover of "Sailing" in 2006 and that wasn't even really his prime. Even now with an older damaged voice you see Flashes of brilliance when he does Axl/Dc. It's his life to live but the overwhelming waste of his abilities is hard to watch.
But even if they can't record, I can't understand why they don't release a 30th anniversary remaster of AFD or other easy things like that, let alone some of the vaulted stuff. I guess the money is in touring, it seems like it will take a death or something to motivate them to do something else for artistic sake or legacy at this point.
