You are not logged in. Please register or login.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:

There go those fiscal conservatives again...guess we'll send the bill to Mexico huh?



House approves spending bill with $1.6 billion for the border wall

The House voted Thursday to approve a spending bill with $1.6 billion to put toward a border wall along the US-Mexico border, part of a high-profile campaign pledge from President Donald Trump.

Despite Trump's pledge to make Mexico pay for the wall, the bill earmarks taxpayer money to construct a carrier along the southwest border. To avoid having those Republicans who oppose the measure vote on it directly House Republican leaders tucked it into a procedural measure that set the debate plan for the so-called "minibus" funding bill for several federal agencies.

The bill passed 235-192 mostly along party lines.

The wall funding was added to a measure that combined funding bills for the Pentagon, energy and water, legislative branch, military construction and Veterans Affairs.

The $658 billion defense spending legislation was $27 billion more than Trump's budget request, and would provide the military additional fighter jets, ships, helicopters and troops that the Pentagon had requested.

While the wall funding was the most contentious piece of the appropriations bill, it was just a small sliver of the spending package the House approved.

The defense spending bill also conforms to the House's budget outline, but it violates the Budget Control Act spending caps commonly known as sequestration. The Senate is not planning to give the military the same level of funding unless the caps are lifted, which would require congressional action.

Senate Democrats are demanding equal increases to domestic and military spending in any funding agreement, a debate that will heat up closer to the October 1 deadline for Congress to fund the government.

CNN

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

I'd just like to point out that the fuckery the GOP is going through with healthcare, is the exact problem Democrats went through in 2009, albeit with less publicity. And the rushed, mishmash of a last minute agreement to pass was the ACA. No Democrats are involved in this mess, just as no Republicans were in the ACA. And Republicans will get to use the same bullshit excuse that "it was their idea".

Let's hope they don't rush something through tonight that is just as problematic as the ACA. I'm still hoping for bipartisan compromise. Though it was funny not a single democrat voted for single payer today. I think that's called having a private and public position.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: US Politics Thread

James wrote:

You know, it's not entirely out of the question that he might be going Howard Hughes/mentally unstable. There could be something behind the scenes that they don't want the public to know.

Who's minding the store?

Is there anyone in that group that can be trusted? I think much of the world can now admit that Bush wasn't really the president. Cheney was.

If Trump is unstable or just the reality TV show puppet for his minions, which minion is at the top of the food chain? It is Pence or someone else?

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

James Lofton wrote:

You know, it's not entirely out of the question that he might be going Howard Hughes/mentally unstable. There could be something behind the scenes that they don't want the public to know.

Who's minding the store?

Is there anyone in that group that can be trusted? I think much of the world can now admit that Bush wasn't really the president. Cheney was.

If Trump is unstable or just the reality TV show puppet for his minions, which minion is at the top of the food chain? It is Pence or someone else?


If the answer isn't apparent, the accusation must not be very strong.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I'd just like to point out that the fuckery the GOP is going through with healthcare, is the exact problem Democrats went through in 2009, albeit with less publicity.

Not even remotely the same.

bigbri
 Rep: 341 

Re: US Politics Thread

bigbri wrote:

Pence

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:

Scaramucci seems to be as crazy as Trump. Anybody read the New Yorker piece?

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

I'd just like to point out that the fuckery the GOP is going through with healthcare, is the exact problem Democrats went through in 2009, albeit with less publicity. And the rushed, mishmash of a last minute agreement to pass was the ACA. No Democrats are involved in this mess, just as no Republicans were in the ACA. And Republicans will get to use the same bullshit excuse that "it was their idea".

Let's hope they don't rush something through tonight that is just as problematic as the ACA. I'm still hoping for bipartisan compromise. Though it was funny not a single democrat voted for single payer today. I think that's called having a private and public position.

If this is your way of trying to spin this as the democrats' fault, it ain't gonna happen.

At the end of the day, Republicans will own all of this...

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

You know, it's not entirely out of the question that he might be going Howard Hughes/mentally unstable. There could be something behind the scenes that they don't want the public to know.

Who's minding the store?

Is there anyone in that group that can be trusted? I think much of the world can now admit that Bush wasn't really the president. Cheney was.

If Trump is unstable or just the reality TV show puppet for his minions, which minion is at the top of the food chain? It is Pence or someone else?

I've been wondering this for a long time. I'm wondering when this went from Trump just trying to increase the value of his brand to what we have now.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: US Politics Thread

PaSnow wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

If Trump is unstable or just the reality TV show puppet for his minions, which minion is at the top of the food chain? It is Pence or someone else?

Interesting point about the 'Reality TV star' and Minions. Maybe Trump wants more say in all this, and is beginning to get rid of all his GOP appointees. To do so, he's bringing in Scaramucci to clean house. I don't know that any one person is in charge. I don't think it's Pence like it was Cheney, I don't think Pence has that much pull and he was more of a random 'safe choice' for VP. I'd say Bannon/Preibus is more likely, or even more likely, the big wigs and donors Preibus reports to.

On the other hand all the crazy 6am Tweets are Trumps and Trumps alone, so I don't know what to think of all this. It just seems like a big mess. I bet its messier behind the scenes too, moreso than we know about.

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB