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polluxlm
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

polluxlm wrote:

Presidential Polls 2016: Donald Trump Leads With 45.1 Percent vs Hillary Clinton's 41.9 Percent in Latest L.A. Times Poll

Donald Trump tops Hillary Clinton by three points in the latest USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Daybreak poll, a sharp contrast from the flood of recent national surveys that show Clinton solidly ahead of her republican challenger.

Overall, Daybreak pollsters found that even though Trump also trials Clinton in most battleground state polls, a bloc of disaffected voters remains large enough to possibly swing the election in his favor.

As it currently stands, Trump leads Clinton 45 percent to 42 percent, well within the poll's margin of error. Meanwhile, a recent Real Clear Politics averages poll found Clinton leading Trump by better than five points.

Poll Weighted in Trump's Favor?

Surveyors noted that the same collection of voters is the primary reason why Daybreak poll numbers have significantly and consistently differed from those gathered by other polls, as they offer something of a best-case-scenario for Trump by placing more emphasis on voters who haven't cast a ballot in recent times but insist they plan to this time around.

That group appears to be driving Trump's raised percentages in the Daybreak poll as tabulations project him leading among that group, thus offsetting the deficit he faces against his democratic challenger among voters who did go to the polls back in 2012.

Meanwhile, poll respondents who did not vote in 2012 but insist they are now all in for Trump were found to be disproportionately white and non-college graduates, a group consistently found to be among his biggest supporters.

Almost six in 10 of the 2012 nonvoters fall into that group. By contrast, non-college-educated whites make up about four in 10 of the poll respondents who did vote four years ago.

Even with the design of the poll stacked in his favor, pollsters note the fact that Trump seldom does better than a tie against Clinton seems problematic for republicans.

Trump's Rhetoric

Pollsters also found in some cases Trump has seemed to be his own worst enemy, as numbers for the political neophyte has significantly declined ever since he started publicly insisting the election was rigged against him.

Trump is slated to give a much anticipated speech on immigration on Wednesday that figures to be critical to any chance he has in Novemeber's general election. In times past, he has vowed to deport as many as 11 million undocumented immigrants and build a wall along the Mexican border to further keep them at bay.

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/12343 … s-poll.htm

misterID
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

I don't see it as any less honourable than any other profession. Lets face it almost all employment is about doing things for money.

Sure, someone having sex with you out of love is a wonderful thing, but that doesn't mean there's any real harm in someone else doing it for a job.

Just like if my wife bakes me a cake out of love it's a wonderful thing, but that doesn't make bakers who make cakes for people bad people.

The big thing here is sugar babies, especially in college towns. College girls will be the "girlfriend" of men, Sugar Daddies, who put them on an allowance and/or help them pay for college. This would have been Bill Clinton's answer to bringing down college debt. tongue

slcpunk
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

slcpunk wrote:

National polling average currently has Clinton at +4. Check out Fox News' latest poll ...+6.

Still doesn't mean much to me anyway, all that matters are EVs.

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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

johndivney wrote:
misterID wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

I don't see it as any less honourable than any other profession. Lets face it almost all employment is about doing things for money.

Sure, someone having sex with you out of love is a wonderful thing, but that doesn't mean there's any real harm in someone else doing it for a job.

Just like if my wife bakes me a cake out of love it's a wonderful thing, but that doesn't make bakers who make cakes for people bad people.

The big thing here is sugar babies, especially in college towns. College girls will be the "girlfriend" of men, Sugar Daddies, who put them on an allowance and/or help them pay for college. This would have been Bill Clinton's answer to bringing down college debt. tongue

Done that too. To misquote dazed and confused, that's what I love about college girls: I get older, they stay the same age..

James
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:

Trump aint winning shit. I know some compare his rise to Hitler(why? He's not a trillionth as smart as Hitler) but he simply doesn't know anything about campaigning. Yeah he had that whole outsider thing going for him initially but that's over now and he never captialized off of it.

Florida is a key state...has been for eons.

Field offices in FLA....

Hillary-52
Trump-1

Yes...one.

In other words, he has no support and clearly wants none. It's all a show.

Game over.

I initially laughed at the landslide shit but you can now throw me into that column. LIke Cramer said, these polls are secondary and EVs all that matter and Hillary is gonna dance across the finish line before the race is even over.

Not gonna predict the level of landslide as Reagan era landslides aint happening but I think it will be over long before polls close on the west coast.

PaSnow
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

PaSnow wrote:

I pretty much agree. This elections pretty much toast. Seems like it was rigged all along for Trump to get Hillary nominated anyway. Hard to believe people take him so seriously. I get it if you "don't want Hillary".  But Donald Trump has run about as ridiculous a campaign as one can try, and he keeps doing better.

I still say this, when he releases his tax returns, there are numerous donations to the Clintons, Obama, and other liberal & democratic causes.

mitchejw
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

mitchejw wrote:

James, PaSnow....others....

If you learn conservative, and you truly believe Trump has lost....I would have to turn to outrage if I were you.

There is no excuse for Trump to have 1 office in Florida while Clinton has 50+. There is literally no excuse. This is a state that is won by a few thousand votes some times. He wasted a lot of time, money and resources. He wasted an election cycle. Now Republicans might be asking, "how bad is the damage going to be." In other words, who else is Trump going to cost during this election cycle? Democrats have the inside track to take back the Senate. It's not a sure thing by any means...but Trump is helping the cause.

We actually had conservative candidates that could beat Hillary. John Kasich being one of them. He would have taken Ohio almost surely which is a big prize in the electoral college.

Donald Trump is a grade A moron. He has massive debt, and he treats other people like garbage. I heard his hotel and casino business were down 15-30% depending on location. He's kicking his own ass. What happens after the election? He will be the biggest loser of them all on a very, very big stage. How does that hurt hist brand? I had never though much about Donald Trump until the last 2 years. He slipped under my radar and I always thought there was a mystique to the man. I always assumed, without looking into it, that he was a very smart, very successful person. This election cycle exposed a lot of things to the contrary. Granted, some of it was staged and embellished to appeal to his base, but those things are reality now. He cannot take them back.

The thing is his...he's so full of ego and bluster that he will never admit to one mistake. I doubt we will ever know how he truly, personally feels. I just can't even speculate what will happen him after the election. Trump will never be the same again.

James
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

James wrote:

BIggest loser? He's going to rake in tons of money after the election even if he did lose in a Reagan-Mondale landslide. His speaking appearance fees will be astronomical and he will likely do what Palin did but magnify it x10000000.

I said this since the beginning.....love or hate the guy....its historic. He has proven that the absolute unthinkable can happen in the most powerful country on earth.....an outsider can come in and shake the entire system up and potentially bring it to its knees. He was just the wrong outsider.

The precedent has been set.

In 4-8 years when not a damn thing has changed, the real outsider is going to enter the world stage. When he comes, look out because that one is going to be unstoppable and the partisan bickering aint going to stop him....it will fuel his victory. There may not even be much bickering.....he may get all the votes.

mitchejw
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

mitchejw wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

BIggest loser? He's going to rake in tons of money after the election even if he did lose in a Reagan-Mondale landslide. His speaking appearance fees will be astronomical and he will likely do what Palin did but magnify it x10000000.

I said this since the beginning.....love or hate the guy....its historic. He has proven that the absolute unthinkable can happen in the most powerful country on earth.....an outsider can come in and shake the entire system up and potentially bring it to its knees. He was just the wrong outsider.

The precedent has been set.

In 4-8 years when not a damn thing has changed, the real outsider is going to enter the world stage. When he comes, look out because that one is going to be unstoppable and the partisan bickering aint going to stop him....it will fuel his victory. There may not even be much bickering.....he may get all the votes.

Why would people pay for hear him speak at such an astronomical fee? He's the loser.

misterID
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

misterID wrote:

I'm looking forward to the inevitable HBO film about Trump's campaign. That will be hilarious.

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