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PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Trump and Co have been an embarrassment. Trump is a fraud. I couldn't be more disappointed with how he's taken over.

I think this is a fair statement. It's been awful. I thought/knew the whole election was a sham and he was just trying to make waves. Why?  Publicity, and I think he really, really did not personally like certain candidates (Jeb, and with time he begain to really dislike Ted Cruz. Not sure he ever met him before). 

Having said that, I thought when he became President he'd become more moderate. Or at least more calm and rational. Sure, I'm not asking him to lean left as the people who voted for him aren't asking him to. But I thought he'd drop the craziness that brought him sold out crowds. Making Mexico pay for a wall, locking up Hillary, etc.. Instead, he's become maybe more erratic, and more pushed by Bannon & Breitbart. Muslim Ban 1.0 was terrible, both in principal, but also mostly execution. Dropping something on a Friday night so that Customs agents who show up for work Saturday morning have no idea what's changing was poorly thought out. Then his 1 hour 20 minute presser two weeks ago was bizarre, self serving and erratic. Then tweeting out on a Saturday morning that Obama ordered wiretaps on him, that just proves he isn't mentally fit for the job.

It is not  stretch to say he's been worse than one expected. At all.

buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:

There's no way mitch is anything like buzz. Buzz posts about buzz. Bizz is the only thjing on buzzs mind. Whatever topic buzz talks about it always goes back to buzz trying desperately to convince himself how awesome he is and always devolves into him having a meltdown. No......I don't care how big the beef you have with Mitch is, that's a major false equivalence.

Funniest thing about this is anyone that actually knows me would mock you for even implying such a thing. My personality here is based on the personality required to engage you.  I used to post thoughtful posts with facts and sources verifying those facts. They were ignored. You guys respond to bullshit, so that's what you get.  I got blamed for everything,  yet didn't log in several times for weeks and nothing changes, yet YOU guys still focus on me. The truth is you guys focus on me way more than I do.

buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:

Trump is a negotiator. Have any of you actually negotiated anything important before?  He's leading like a businessman and not like a politician though there is some overlap.  You're so busy trying to shit on everything that you're not noticing what is going on (yet again).

Relax. Not everything needs a response from you. Social media has fed the ignorant more than they can handle.

Randall Flagg
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Fucking Trump, adding an extra 100k jobs.  Who does he think he is?  Worried about Americans and the working class.  He should be focused on sending in the DOJ to explain why gang bangers are shot by cops when they pull a gun or how boys can become girls.  What next?  Is he going to to start kicking drug dealers and felons who illegally stay in our country?  Prevent an open door to people who have no interest in adapting to our culture and want the free shit.   At this point in Obama's presidency he had already got a Noble Prize.  Meanwhile all Trump is doing is making the country a better place for middle America.  Fucked up priorities.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/the- … 14694.html

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Fucking Trump, adding an extra 100k jobs.  ]

Do you understand what an economic lag is? Trump has not put anything in place to take credit for 100k jobs yet. Nor has he been in office long enough to take credit for low UE. Of course when Obama was president: Job gains were only minimum wage, saving the auto industry was "socialism", UE was now calculated in a completely different way, the DOW was propped up by the Fed and real estate was again "in a bubble."

Magically this line of thinking all disappeared overnight. Everything Trump inherited from Obama is now his, and it's all great, even though it defies anything you'd learn in a Macro economics 101 course. #MAGA

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:

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mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread

slcpunk wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Fucking Trump, adding an extra 100k jobs.  ]

Do you understand what an economic lag is? Trump has not put anything in place to take credit for 100k jobs yet. Nor has he been in office long enough to take credit for low UE. Of course when Obama was president: Job gains were only minimum wage, saving the auto industry was "socialism", UE was now calculated in a completely different way, the DOW was propped up by the Fed and real estate was again "in a bubble."

Magically this line of thinking all disappeared overnight. Everything Trump inherited from Obama is now his, and it's all great, even though it defies anything you'd learn in a Macro economics 101 course. #MAGA


The article clearly says that people are motivated by Trump's election to seek work.  The Stock Market has soared because investors believe Trump is good for the economy.  I guess it's just a coincidence the dramatic improvements that occurred the day after his election.  I don't know what jobs bill or legislation you think Obama oversaw that helped the economy, but if you want to give him credit for the recovery of the recession, you have to give Trump credit for this. 

Does Trump slap his name on any and every positive story?  Yep.  Is he an idiot because of this?  Yep.  Does that negate that he's had a very positive effect on the stock market and economy in general?  Nope.  Everything that has happened in the 46 days since he's been sworn in has been a positive for the average American citizen.  The only people who can bitch are the illegals being sent home and the few thousand kids in school who genuinely suffer from gender dysphoria.  The first group doesn't get to bitch and the 2nd group should take up their issues with all the progressives who think being gender fluid is in fashion and make a mockery of the incredibly small portion of the population who actually meet the medical definition of being "trans-gendered."

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Fucking Trump, adding an extra 100k jobs.  Who does he think he is?  Worried about Americans and the working class.  He should be focused on sending in the DOJ to explain why gang bangers are shot by cops when they pull a gun or how boys can become girls.  What next?  Is he going to to start kicking drug dealers and felons who illegally stay in our country?  Prevent an open door to people who have no interest in adapting to our culture and want the free shit.   At this point in Obama's presidency he had already got a Noble Prize.  Meanwhile all Trump is doing is making the country a better place for middle America.  Fucked up priorities.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/the- … 14694.html

These are the fair and unbiased posts that truly makes RF credible.

More credible than anyone else here.

Yay America! We elected a great negotiator who proved his skills in a "reality" tv show.

Next election, maybe we should elect Kevin Bacon or maybe even Bateman.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
Randall Flagg wrote:

Fucking Trump, adding an extra 100k jobs.  Who does he think he is?  Worried about Americans and the working class.  He should be focused on sending in the DOJ to explain why gang bangers are shot by cops when they pull a gun or how boys can become girls.  What next?  Is he going to to start kicking drug dealers and felons who illegally stay in our country?  Prevent an open door to people who have no interest in adapting to our culture and want the free shit.   At this point in Obama's presidency he had already got a Noble Prize.  Meanwhile all Trump is doing is making the country a better place for middle America.  Fucked up priorities.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/the- … 14694.html

These are the fair and unbiased posts that truly makes RF credible.

More credible than anyone else here.

Yay America! We elected a great negotiator who proved his skills in a "reality" tv show.

Next election, maybe we should elect Kevin Bacon or maybe even Bateman.

You voted for a community organizer who had 4 years of Senate experience and not a single legislative accomplishment. You wanted an 80 year old Doc Brown who honeymooned in the USSR and claimed he could make everything free and also lacked a single legislative accomplishment as your President.

You set the bar pretty fucking low. Now you have to deal with the fact an incredibly successful businessman (do you have a new definition for success?  Where can I stay at a Mitch hotel or get a Mitch tie. You're a businessman, so how do you stack up to Trump?) who said a lot of weird and insane shit is now President.

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