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mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

We get it mitch...he's an idiot when he does the wrong thing and an idiot when he does the right thing.  You've been parroting this for almost 3 years now. 

We all acknowledge that there's absolutely nothing he can do short of dying that will make you happy.   I've just saved you from having to post in this thread until the next election.  Use that time to learn something about politics instead of repeating what you hear from your liberal sources as fact.

Are you that fucking dense?

Here’s what has transpired!

1) Trump reaches out to NK
2) Trump holds summits with Kim in which NOTHING ever gets accomplished
3) lots of photos and media present
4) Trump makes lots of promises and expressed absolute falsehoods regarding progress
5) NK is still developing its technology

At what point was any of this good?

I’ll answer for you because you’re a stubborn asshole....IT WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.

I have learned nothing from you or RF...you’re the same old sticks in the mud you’ve always been.

Trump has been an abysmal failure and his conduct isn’t worthy of even a janitor....but you and RF come here and defend him consistently. You also hold me to a higher standard than you do the president.

You know what the problem is? You think your calling it right down the middle but you’re bias bleeds through every time you defend this bumbling moron of a president. Trump embarrassed himself again and failed to deliver on one of his blustery promises yet AGAIN.

You had no problem with the republicans roasting Hillary for decades. Now it seems you’re getting sooo sensitive.

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

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buzzsaw wrote:

You dont learn because you're in complete denial about anything that doesn't align 100% with your vision (whatever that is).

According to you, I love trump because I don't blast him on a daily basis.  That is 100% your logic and you refuse to understand that there are a lot more people out there that feel like I do than think like you do.  The wheel is broken.   That's not an opinion.   Trump is president because of the broken wheel.   2+ years of me telling you to try to understand what happened and why it happened,  your hateful mind hasn't given it a moment of thought.  Trump sucks...that's all you see and nothing else matters to you. 

I'm pretty sure I never applauded Hillary getting roasted, though she deserved it every bit as much as trump does.  Like usual I don't care...that's nothing more than politics as usual.  My "bias" as you call it is that I don't blast trump.  Nope.  I've checked out on politics for the most part because the wheel is broken.  I don't care what he does.  As far as I'm concerned anything that gets more people to realize the wheel is broken is okay in my book.  Hopefully you get it before too much damage is done so you can be part of the solution instead of being the poster child for the problem.

mitchejw
 Rep: 130 

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mitchejw wrote:

Fine...check out.

The system threw most Americans overboard 35-40 years ago with Reagan imho....

It’s rewarding greed. It’s fuckin hillbillies and fake Christian republicans cheering on the billionaires that hide their money over seas instead of paying their fair share.

It’s a deep denial that every time taxes get cut that it doesn’t benefit the average Joe....not now not ever. A true tax cut for the middle class will never, ever happen. Rich people hold our economy hostage to get more and more of what they want.

We also don’t have anything that unites us anymore. There is no reason that i should care about your well being nor should you care about mine. Fuck thoughts and prayers. They’re useless. And meaningless.

So long as our governments disproportionately over represent the states with small populations; so long as out popular votes don’t match our representation; so long as NY gets the same amount of senators as Wyoming, our democracy will be broken. It cannot possibly reflect the will of the people. Not even close.

So you can check out if you want to....but by and large this is how i feel and that’s why I’m fed up.

You can disagree with my conclusions but that is all that I’ve learned. I’m so tired of our culture. I don’t believe trump held any appeal outside of his willingness to openly bash people. While that may build you a base, it’ll build you a lot Of enemies too. Those enemies will eventually align to beat you.

Trumps presidency has been an abysmal failure. He’s done nothing for the little guy.

I’ll leave you with this...the first election i was old enough to participate in was Gore/Bush. I strongly believe that the general republican strategy that election and every election since has been one of pure slander. They cannot win on their ideas alone...so they implement strategies of division. Strategy to suppress the vote. Strategies to restrict voting. Strategies to make voting harder. It’s only under these circumstances can the Republicans win in the modern era in any national or statewide elections outside of the Deep South and a few mountain states with very few people in it.

If voter suppression is a big part of your political strategy...you’ll never have my vote. The Republican Party turned its back on me....not the other way around.

Bring back the Dwight Eiesenhower Republican and you’ll have my vote.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kim-not-trum … 26093.html

It seems trump has misrepresented things agains.

slcpunk
 Rep: 149 

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slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

We get it mitch...he's an idiot when he does the wrong thing and an idiot when he does the right thing.  You've been parroting this for almost 3 years now. 

We all acknowledge that there's absolutely nothing he can do short of dying that will make you happy.   I've just saved you from having to post in this thread until the next election.  Use that time to learn something about politics instead of repeating what you hear from your liberal sources as fact.

Trump is a criminal, pathological liar, racist and traitor to this country.

No "liberal source" needed, you can read plenty of conservatives say this, in fact the WSJ has played a pivotal role in breaking stories about this lunatic. One conservative after another has been cited here, one conservative after another have brought charges against Trump's inner most circle, one conservative after another has said we should vote for Democrats in the last election. You weirdos ignore this and claim they're all bias or dishonest.

You seem upset that people are telling the truth about Trump and want to lash out at them instead. Says a lot about you...

slcpunk
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slcpunk wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Are you that fucking dense?

Willfully and arrogantly.

buzzsaw
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Re: US Politics Thread

buzzsaw wrote:
slcpunk wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

We get it mitch...he's an idiot when he does the wrong thing and an idiot when he does the right thing.  You've been parroting this for almost 3 years now. 

We all acknowledge that there's absolutely nothing he can do short of dying that will make you happy.   I've just saved you from having to post in this thread until the next election.  Use that time to learn something about politics instead of repeating what you hear from your liberal sources as fact.

Trump is a criminal, pathological liar, racist and traitor to this country.

No "liberal source" needed, you can read plenty of conservatives say this, in fact the WSJ has played a pivotal role in breaking stories about this lunatic. One conservative after another has been cited here, one conservative after another have brought charges against Trump's inner most circle, one conservative after another has said we should vote for Democrats in the last election. You weirdos ignore this and claim they're all bias or dishonest.

You seem upset that people are telling the truth about Trump and want to lash out at them instead. Says a lot about you...

No, I don't care what people call him.  I didn't vote for him nor will I vote for him.  You also have this misconception that anyone that doesn't repeat the same hatred over and over loves trump.  You guys are the real idiots because most people understand what trump is.  You guys act like any trump news is shocking when it happens,  but it isn't.   He was this way as a Democrat too...dont forget he was one of you until very recently.   

All those things you claim he is, Hillary is too.  Every single one of them.  Where are your posts blasting her?  Nowhere?   Because it's okay to be all of those things as long as they are on your side?  See, I blast you guys because I know what they are, but clearly you guys don't .  Politicians don't get to the national level without being pathological liars and in many cases criminals. I'd also make the case that they are all traitors (using your loose definition) as they certainly aren't doing what is best for Americans.   

But you keep living in your fantasy world where your side is right and the ends justify the means.  I'll keep doing my thing and we'll continue the same posts for another 3+ years.  It's a lot less time consuming for me than it is for you.

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

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The same people calling Trump a "criminal, pathological liar, racist and traitor to this country" said the same thing about McCain, Romney and Bush.  They always say the same thing.  And they're always super serial this time.

They never need any evidence or a court to agree with them.  And they're always silent about the things their preferred candidate did that would meet the same standard.  Trump didn't stand next to Farrakhan or attend a church where the reverend yelled "god damn America" or "god damn white people".  Not a peep though, because they're not interested in thinking.

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

I suppose one question to the Trump supporters:  If Trump was asked by Mueller about both the Stormy Daniels payments, and the firing of Comey, and it's deemed he lied under oath about both (with evidence, let's say Cohen has convo's on tape or someone like John Kelly corroborates it), do you think that Trump should be removed for that as a result of obstruction?

Randall Flagg
 Rep: 139 

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PaSnow wrote:

I suppose one question to the Trump supporters:  If Trump was asked by Mueller about both the Stormy Daniels payments, and the firing of Comey, and it's deemed he lied under oath about both (with evidence, let's say Cohen has convo's on tape or someone like John Kelly corroborates it), do you think that Trump should be removed for that as a result of obstruction?


No, we already established that lying under oath isn't impeachable when Clinton was in office.  I don't think you have anything on Comey because firing people in the executive branch is the President's job, and Comey testified he was never compelled by Trump.  But if paying off porn stars and lying about it is a crime, we have a bunch of previous incidents to refer to for guidance.

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