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James
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Re: The General and Monsters

James wrote:
AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.

Holy shit.

That's almost as bad as Bobby Blotzer giving platinum albums to his entire scab RATT lineup a few years ago.


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harmon420
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Re: The General and Monsters

harmon420 wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

Did Ron get no writing credits on CD? Not a one?

Edit: Nope. Answered my own question.

No, bc he just re did solos

Redid solos and a bunch of rhythm parts (notably CD verses). Pretty much exactly what Slash did!

Ron is such a great dude and was literally the only mouthpiece we had for the band post '06. Can't say enough great things about the guy as a person. However, his contributions were so unnecessary to the CD sessions. That's not a knock at him, but further proof that they should have pulled the trigger by 2006 at the latest. After hearing the village sessions and the '07 leaks, there is no reason this saga should have lasted as long as it did. But it is what it is and we don't know every detail, this is only my perspective as an obsessive fan.

With that being said, Ron's vision of writing new music together (you know..as a band) would have produced better results than him going back and adding more layers to tracks that were already on the verge of being over bloated.

No matter how divided the fanbase has been on various topics, i think we can all agree that pulling the trigger on the album anytime between 00 and 06 would have drastically altered the trajectory and success of nu guns.

wagszilla
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Re: The General and Monsters

wagszilla wrote:

Ron and Frank were the newest fall guys for why CD had to be delayed.

They did what the boss told them.

First it was Robin quitting.
Then it was Buckethead joining.
Buckethead's illness.
Tommy's hand.
More recording. Soon is not the word.
Buckethead's "inconsistent and erratic behavior".
Brain's baby.
Recording wasn't finished (after Axl had a wrap party).
One of these 10 Tuesdays.
Ron and Frank had to be added to CD.
Needed to be remixed.
Tommy's hand again.

God this band blows.

FlashFlood
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Re: The General and Monsters

FlashFlood wrote:
James wrote:
AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.

Holy shit.

That's almost as bad as Bobby Blotzer giving platinum albums to his entire scab RATT lineup a few years ago.


https://metalsludge.tv/wp-content/uploa … 2016_1.jpg

Megadeth recently did something similar with their current lineup for one of their classic albums. Did the whole photo opp thing with the current band.

Edit: sweet scarf Bobby! Lololol

misterID
 Rep: 475 

Re: The General and Monsters

misterID wrote:

Jfc, Axl, it didn’t need to be remixed! mad

wagszilla
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Re: The General and Monsters

wagszilla wrote:
misterID wrote:

Jfc, Axl, it didn’t need to be remixed! mad

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misterID
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Re: The General and Monsters

misterID wrote:

That was his moment ^^

Gagarin
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Re: The General and Monsters

Gagarin wrote:
wagszilla wrote:

Ron and Frank were the newest fall guys for why CD had to be delayed.

They did what the boss told them.

First it was Robin quitting.
Then it was Buckethead joining.
Buckethead's illness.
Tommy's hand.
More recording. Soon is not the word.
Buckethead's "inconsistent and erratic behavior".
Brain's baby.
Recording wasn't finished (after Axl had a wrap party).
One of these 10 Tuesdays.
Ron and Frank had to be added to CD.
Needed to be remixed.
Tommy's hand again.

God this band blows.

I feel like my youth flashed before my eyes.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: The General and Monsters

James wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:
James wrote:
AgesOfTheIce wrote:

Was just reminded of that pathetic incident where Axl sent DJ Ashba a platinum award for CD. Not only did he have no credits, he didn't even appear on the record like BBF and Frank.

Holy shit.

That's almost as bad as Bobby Blotzer giving platinum albums to his entire scab RATT lineup a few years ago.


https://metalsludge.tv/wp-content/uploa … 2016_1.jpg

Megadeth recently did something similar with their current lineup for one of their classic albums. Did the whole photo opp thing with the current band.

Edit: sweet scarf Bobby! Lololol


Surely these are all replicas of some sort. I can't imagine these guys being issued real platinum album awards.

I also had no idea it happens this often. God only knows how many times we don't know about.

James
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Re: The General and Monsters

James wrote:
misterID wrote:

That was his moment ^^

Yeah.

Still young enough to tackle all these songs.

We had to wait until he was in his 60s for any of the second half of Chinese to be performed.

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